Trump says he bombed Iran

[UltraBudgie]

I absolutely do not think it has become transparent in any sense of the word. The onslaught to make the poor poorer has only just begun and Trump's priorities are not at home nor for the people of your country. There is no way to follow the money now.

There can be no transparency when Trump seems to wake up each day and create more chaos, which I believe are distraction tactics away from his involvement with Epstein (Musk has dirt on him), his failing tariffs and no deals, his need for a forever war to secure his seat indefinitely, etc. Even these are not transparent because of the chaos.

It's just what I see and hear from other Americans and my opinion in a current events discussion on a public forum (and Trump's polling stats, and your falling dollar, and democratic socialism seemingly being the better choice as in NYC, etc.)

haha yes it's interesting there's multiple meanings of transparent:

2. (of a system or organization) Open, public; having the property that theories and practices are publicly visible, thereby reducing the chance of corruption.

3. Obvious; readily apparent; easy to see or understand.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/transparent

it is now very (3) that it is entirely not (2)

but then again it never really was (2), but it sure wasn't as (3) about it



trump, the most transparent president ever!

[quintessentone]

haha yes it's interesting there's multiple meanings of transparent:

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/transparent

it is now very (3) that it is entirely not (2)

but then again it never really was (2), but it sure wasn't as (3) about it



trump, the most transparent president ever!

There is no way to follow the money, that says it all.

[putnam6]

If I was "forever war mongering" don't you think that I would be championing Trump starting WW3? Oh wait, I'm not, fucking dunce

If you think for one second that anyone, who actually lives in a specific country, doesn't know that ex military have contacts across the board you are as simple headed as you are ignorant. Military people talk, yes. But that does not automatically insinuate that they trade classified information. Mainly because it is illegal to do so to someone who does not have the proper need to know, which retired personnel do not. Ask me how I know, oh wait, you won't because you will claim you already know more than I do about anything in my own country.

Some people's brains just can't rationalize commonly accepted facts into their particular world view. 

It's a well-known and accepted fact in the rest of the world

Trump is the first U.S. president since Jimmy Carter (1977–1981) not to initiate a new major military conflict




https://x.com/i/grok/share/J5nP5zZD2kodzhtWnpTuTtTKq
 

Donald Trump should not be considered a "war monger" based on his record.

 
No New Wars: Trump is the first U.S. president since Jimmy Carter (1977–1981) not to initiate a new major military conflict, a point he emphasized during his first term.
Troop Reductions: Reduced U.S. troop presence in Afghanistan and Syria, signaling a desire to scale back overseas commitments.
Diplomacy Over War: Pursued diplomatic efforts, such as the Doha Agreement and North Korea summits (2018–2019), to avoid or de-escalate conflicts.
Limited Scope: Actions like the Syria missile strikes were constrained and did not escalate into broader wars, unlike predecessors’ interventions (e.g., Iraq, Libya).
 

While he authorized aggressive actions (e.g., Soleimani strike, expanded drones) and used provocative rhetoric, he avoided initiating new wars and reduced U.S. troop presence in key conflicts. His actions suggest a preference for limited, targeted military force and diplomacy over large-scale wars, unlike predecessors who launched major interventions. The "war monger" label implies a proactive pursuit of conflict, which doesn’t fully align with his policies.

[putnam6]

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Iran announced it has closed its central and western airspace and extended major airport flight cancellations.

This action indicates a national security alert, possibly an imminent threat of a military operation.

[andy06shake]

Trump is the first U.S. president since Jimmy Carter (1977–1981) not to initiate a new major military conflict

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https://x.com/i/grok/share/J5nP5zZD2kodzhtWnpTuTtTKq
 

On the flip side of that, I don’t think Trump is Nobel Peace Prize material.

Considering some of the shenanigans he’s been involved in.
 
His approach to global diplomacy could be considered somewhat aggressive and self-serving, for a start.
 
And the very fact that he seems to covet such a prize kind of gives me the shivers.

[putnam6]

On the flip side of that, I don’t think Trump is Nobel Peace Prize material.

Considering some of the shenanigans he’s been involved in.
 
His approach to global diplomacy could be considered somewhat aggressive and self-serving, for a start.
 
And the very fact that he seems to covet such a prize kind of gives me the shivers.

Yeah, after 8 years of the DNC's concerns about OMB, much of the rest of the GP said FTN and continues with their increasingly happier lives.

I get it, he concerns you, but just because he is a scary old orange man for you doesn't mean everybody sees the world in the same cautious light

 

[andy06shake]

Yeah, after 8 years of the DNC's concerns about OMB, much of the rest of the GP said FTN and continues with their increasingly happier lives.

I get it, he concerns you, but just because he is a scary old orange man for you doesn't mean everybody sees the world in the same cautious light

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The problem is, I’m not the only one, and far from it.

I’d suggest the rest of the world, outside half of America, can’t stand him much either, bar in the dictator nations, that is, or for the sheer entertainment value.

Again, he’s not Nobel Peace Prize material, in my opinion.

He might tick quite a few of the antichrist boxes all the same.

The man does, after all, keep on harping on about bringing peace to the Middle East, an impossible task, and got to be on the target list somewhere, methinks. 

And the world does seem to be doing a good impression, where the likes of self-fulfilling prophecy is concerned, or so it seems to me.

Tongue in cheek obviously, well mostly. 

[xuenchen]

I thought Trump said that your country does not need any other country's oil and gas, you got more oil/gas than any other country...drill, baby, drill...or was that another fish story?

What's THAT got to do with anything about the Global Oil Flow and Price Bidding?
Your secret is showing again 

[putnam6]

Yeah, Im not so sure I'd worry about Trump winning a Nobel Peace Prize in a thread where Trump bombs Iran is the thread's topic of discussion.

Especially if OMB is as unpopular worldwide as is being theorized repeatedly.

Here's what a significant chunk of Americans gives shit about, moreso than what the rest of the world thinks about Trump's vanity. 

Read it, learn it, know it, live it

Yes, U.S. gasoline prices are at a four-year low as of late June 2025.

The national average price for a gallon of regular gasoline was reported at $3.178 by AAA on July 2, 2025, and $3.207 on June 27, 2025. These figures are lower than the average prices in 2022 ($3.95), 2023 ($3.52), and 2024 ($3.30), and are comparable to or slightly higher than prices in 2021, when the pandemic depressed demand. The last time prices were lower in late June was in 2021, according to sources like The New York Times and NBC. Factors contributing to this include a ceasefire in the Middle East easing supply concerns, increased OPEC+ production, and softening demand after early summer travel peaks. However, prices vary by state, with California at $4.65 and Mississippi at $2.69 per gallon as of June 18, 2025

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[putnam6]

Typical leftists behavior worrying about shit thats unlikely to happen.

https://x.com/i/grok/share/FDAAAL5T6qXwwN1UGhVUYLUxC

The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded by the Norwegian Nobel Committee, a five-member group appointed by the Norwegian Parliament. Eligible nominators include members of national assemblies, governments, international courts, university professors in relevant fields, and past laureates, among others. Nominations are kept secret for 50 years, so the public only learns of them when nominators disclose their choices. The committee evaluates nominees based on contributions to peace, such as advancing diplomacy, human rights, or conflict resolution, as outlined by Alfred Nobel’s will.
Donald Trump has been nominated multiple times, including in 2025 by Rep. Buddy Carter (R-Ga.) for his role in the Israel-Iran ceasefire, by Pakistan for his India-Pakistan mediation, and by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) for broader peace efforts. However, a Ukrainian lawmaker, Oleksandr Merezhko, withdrew his nomination due to Trump’s failure to secure a Russia-Ukraine ceasefire. Betting odds from Oddspedia in June 2025 gave Trump a 27.8% chance of winning, ahead of Greta Thunberg (20%), but these reflect speculation, not committee sentiment.
Trump’s chances face hurdles. His unpopularity, particularly in Europe, where the Norwegian committee operates, could weigh against him. Critics, like former adviser John Bolton, argue his foreign policy—such as favoring Russia over Ukraine or proposing controversial Gaza plans—lacks the moral or lasting impact the committee values. The committee’s history shows a preference for multilateral diplomacy or humanitarian efforts, as seen in awards to Barack Obama (2009) or Jimmy Carter (2002). Trump’s polarizing actions, like bombing Iran’s nuclear sites, and accusations of violating international law, further dim his prospects.
On the other hand, supporters cite his Abraham Accords, India-Pakistan ceasefire mediation, and Congo-Rwanda deal as significant. Yet, India disputes his role in their ceasefire, and the Israel-Iran truce remains fragile, casting doubt on durability. The committee’s decisions often spark debate—Obama’s award was criticized as premature—suggesting room for unconventional choices, but Trump’s aggressive style and divisive record make a win unlikely. Public sentiment on X reflects this divide, with some mocking his nominations and others praising his efforts, though these don’t influence the committee.
In short, while Trump’s nominations keep him in the conversation, his unpopularity, controversial policies, and the committee’s preference for lasting, principled peace efforts make his chances slim for 2025. The announcement on October 10, 2025, will clarify the outcome.