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Trump says he bombed Iran
(06-26-2025, 01:44 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: He doesn't have dementia.  
He's missing nearly all of the symptoms.
What you are saying is 'dementia' is really just him being an idiot, and him lying, and him bloviating.
All politicians do it.  But he has it down to an art form.  A category unto itself.


This, from 2024:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...25124.html

"First off, he seems pretty incoherent,” he said. “It’s hard for him not to be tangential, circumstantial, not to stay on message. He’s all over the place.” Frances cited examples of unfounded claims Trump made in the debate: that babies are “being executed” after birth, schools are performing surgery on children, and Haitian immigrants are eating pets. “The things he’s saying suggest he’s really lost touch with reality,” he said. “It seems to me likely — although we can’t be definitive about saying anything about anyone at a distance — it seems likely he has deteriorated a great deal.”

My goodness.

He is now more incoherent and rambling.

You all went bonkers about Biden's obvious cognitive decline but ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears about Trump's equally obvious decline.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(06-26-2025, 02:10 PM)andy06shake Wrote: No, and neither can Trump, so........................

But I'm not claiming total obliteration when the satellite images clearly show otherwise.

You have set them back six months and just made them even more committed to producing a working nuclear device.

I mean nobody wants Iran to have nukes, but the way Trump went about it is only going to make it happen.  

And good luck stopping them, considering you could not stop Pakistan, India, or North Korea, or Israel for that matter.

The difference is President Trump I'm sure received real time classified intel briefings and you just bloviate unfounded assertions because omb and you're right
(06-26-2025, 02:10 PM)andy06shake Wrote: But I'm not claiming total obliteration when the satellite images clearly show otherwise. 

You do understand that the damage was waaaaay  underground, right?
(06-26-2025, 02:04 PM)Zaphod58 Wrote: They wouldn’t suffer radiation poisoning unless they were directly handling the material itself. Usually it would be put in casks and an enclosed trailer.  It could be stored just about anywhere, but underground is safest from a bombing perspective.

Now we did it...

Zaphod drops his Midday Hammer filled with logic, facts, and expertise. 

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In other news my brother texted me "fireball"  "boom" in "South East Georgia". My first thought since Im neck deep in this thread is the Savannah River nuclear plant, among other scenarios


it was just a meteor..... but I checked immediately LOL
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(06-26-2025, 02:10 PM)andy06shake Wrote: But I'm not claiming total obliteration when the satellite images clearly show otherwise.

I see bunker buster holes what do you see?
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(06-26-2025, 01:52 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: ... and I know people who say just the opposite, that what you see is just stupidity and an out of control ego in a politician and lies.   And I've had to deal with a few people with cognitive issues as well and they don't match what he's showing.

He got his first name wrong pal...................

At that age, that's more than stupid. 

But defend him if you please, happen to us all one day, if we are lucky enough to make it that long.

Entropy is a bitch, and just look at the way the man lives his life.

Senility is not just in the post, it's written all over his face.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(06-26-2025, 01:50 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: well i think fox news has a bit of a partisan slant too. perhaps the best idea is to just keep calling out the subverters and their evil intentions.

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i like where your head is at though. maybe all this back and forth isn't useless and people really can change.

I like how The President now calls everything that contradicts him evil, and then his supporters rebuke it and call for contradicting heads to roll.

Actually I don't, It scares the shit out of me, because dictatorships like China, North Korea, and Russia do that crap. 

If on a spectrum, this really seems closer to like when North Korea tests their new ballastic missile and it spirals off into the ocean, but they still declare it a massively successful test, even though the world is LAUGHING at them for it. 

But, what about those trucks? The massive line of them?  You're telling me we dont have an NGA that knows exactly where those trucks drove to, and how many of them did?

We are missing pieces of intelligence not being disclosed. 

It actually seems plausible for it to be as little as 6 months if all they have to do is dig a new bunker with electricity and ventilation. But good luck keeping that site secret from people who look at satellites all day. 

I feel like once again this administration considers me an idiot with absolutely zero ability to read through his bullshit and posturing exaggerations, like every other intelligence agency on Earth is doing. We're the ones with the propaganda. 

His toadies are more concerned with keeping him infallible too, and that's also a massive problem.
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(06-26-2025, 02:15 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: This, from 2024:

I didn't say he wasn't a mess.   Cuz' he is.
He isn't showing signs of dementia, IMHO.
When you match up the symptoms given at the MAYO clinic
or with AARP etc etc ... it doesn't match.

Trump is an ass.  He's a liar, as all are politicians, but he mixes in bloviating to make it an art form.  He's crass.  He's an adulterer.   With him everything is 'the biggest ever' or 'like no one has ever seen before' .. which is how he speaks.   He's a typical NYC businessman who has been elected to the highest office in the land and is taking that NYC "pushy and bigger than life' businessman attitude with him.   He rambles.  He goes off topic.  He comes back to where he was in a few minutes.   But he's not showing dementia.   He's been like this for the past 10 years and if he had dementia it would be much further along.   That's my opinion.  I"m not a doctor.  And when you look at what doctors say trying to diagnose him long distance, some come down on the side of dementia and some don't.  But we don't know the political leanings of any of them so bias can't be ruled out.
(06-26-2025, 02:19 PM)SomeStupidName Wrote: I see bunker buster holes what do you see?
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On this little phone not a lot.

There are better images that clearly show quite a lot still standing.

As to what you see underground, nothing, and yet Trump claims total obliteration.

How does that work? 

The answer is not without proof.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(06-26-2025, 02:06 PM)andy06shake Wrote: A dirty bomb, maybe, but not a functional nuclear weapon, at such a low percentage. 

You know Uranium enriched to 60% isn’t enough for a reliable nuclear bomb and that it requires more material, with a substantially higher critical mass.

As to emissions, if those bombs can get in, emissions can get out, and as far as im aware, they are not detecting radiation in the manner that may be expected.

Yes, because radiation that can be stopped by a piece of paper is going to be able to get through hundreds of tons of rock because a bomb can punch its way through.



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