Trump says he bombed Iran

[Oldcarpy2]

Well, let's think about it for just a moment. She had her original opinion then, don't you think perhaps she received further information that resulted in an updated opinion?

Or got the Trump full on ranting at?

[andy06shake]

You made the claim and cannot actually verify with an independent and unbiased source that Trump "Didn't defeated or destroyed anyone or anything"

You made the claim and cannot actually verify with an independent and unbiased source that "Iran is still there, and hell of a pissed off." Still there sure pissed off maybe they are celebrating, maybe they are trying to over through the Islamic regime, idk. 

Debate is great but I guess to me this wasn't coming off as debate, it appeared more like propaganda pushing.

And can you disprove my claims?

And whose propaganda am i pushing by simply wanting answers to questions that remain as of yet unanswered or addressed?

I dont like Trump and make no bones about but I'm hardly pushing propaganda. LoL

[andy06shake]

And can you disprove my claims?

I dont think there is much that can be 100% verified just yet.

Certainly not complete obliteration for a start.

And whose propaganda am i pushing by simply wanting answers to questions that remain as of yet unanswered or addressed?

I dont like Trump and make no bones about but I'm hardly pushing propaganda.

[putnam6]

FWIW...



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IRAN FOREIGN MINISTER ARAQCHI SAYS TEHRAN IS ASSESSING WHETHER DIPLOMACY WITH U.S. IS IN ITS INTEREST

[Zaphod58]

No, we dont transport enriched uranium in dump trucks.

But at a push you know it's completely feasible.

It could have been done Zaphod.

And the lack of detection of radiation, given Trump's claim of complete obliteration, may well suggest that it was done beforehand.

Again, though it's just speculation until actual facts materialise.

It's not like they can magically enrich 60% uranium to 95% purity without some serious tech and a centrifuge.

But to imagine it was all buried or burned, well again, i would like to see the evidence that proves so.

A lot of things could be done. But there was an open entrance, a bunch of dump trucks pulled up and there was a blocked entrance to the facility. But yes, let’s leap to them removing the uranium in dump trucks.

Uranium at 60% is already capable of creating a weapon. It’s not going on a missile, But it’s still a weapon. 

The primary emissions of enriched uranium are Alpha and Beta particles. Alpha particles can be stopped by a piece of paper. Beta particles don’t penetrate much better. Both will easily be stopped by rocks. There are a small amount of Gamma particles released, but depending on how enriched it is, and how much is released it could be buried in the background radiation.

[SomeStupidName]

And can you disprove my claims?

Can you prove your claims?

[RazorV66]

Two stories 

https://www.ft.com/content/0808eeb8-341c...b07febef91

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/25/trump-ir...-nato.html

I miss John Brennan.  

The CIA is not supposed to be a propaganda wing, and The USA is not supposed to do this exaggerating North Korea shit. 

The John Brennan who lied to you along with 50 other former "intelligence" people about Hunter Biden's laptop?

That was Democrat propaganda of the highest order.

[Zaphod58]

Last I read/heard on news is that they had enriched to 60%.
What would have to be used to transport that?
And would the people moving it be radiated and dead in three weeks ?
And what would it have to be stored in?  Back underground?
etc etc etc

They wouldn’t suffer radiation poisoning unless they were directly handling the material itself. Usually it would be put in casks and an enclosed trailer.  It could be stored just about anywhere, but underground is safest from a bombing perspective.

[andy06shake]

A lot of things could be done. But there was an open entrance, a bunch of dump trucks pulled up and there was a blocked entrance to the facility. But yes, let’s leap to them removing the uranium in dump trucks.

Uranium at 60% is already capable of creating a weapon. It’s not going on a missile, But it’s still a weapon. 

The primary emissions of enriched uranium are Alpha and Beta particles. Alpha particles can be stopped by a piece of paper. Beta particles don’t penetrate much better. Both will easily be stopped by rocks. There are a small amount of Gamma particles released, but depending on how enriched it is, and how much is released it could be buried in the background radiation.

A dirty bomb, maybe, but not a functional nuclear weapon, at such a low percentage. 

You know Uranium enriched to 60% isn’t enough for a reliable nuclear bomb and that it requires more material, with a substantially higher critical mass.

As to emissions, if those bombs can get in, emissions can get out, and as far as im aware, they are not detecting radiation in the manner that may be expected.

[andy06shake]

Can you prove your claims?

No, and neither can Trump, so........................

But I'm not claiming total obliteration when the satellite images clearly show otherwise.

You have set them back six months and just made them even more committed to producing a working nuclear device.

I mean nobody wants Iran to have nukes, but the way Trump went about it is only going to make it happen.  

And good luck stopping them, considering you could not stop Pakistan, India, or North Korea, or Israel for that matter.