Trump says he bombed Iran

[FlyersFan]

Then again I'm not the one claiming complete obliteration before the reports were even produced. 

Which was a typical Trumpian/political thing to do.
Really dumb move.

[FlyersFan]

But this is the part where you justify his bullc@ap by telling us all politicians do that.

I gave you the definitions which clearly explain the difference so...............

I don't justify his lying.  I complain about it.

In this case, he is just repeating what the intel from America, Israel, Iran and UN say.  If it were just him spewing, then I'd agree that it's not to be trusted.   But that's not the case.

And as far as your definitions go ... again .... nitpicking.   He uses the colorful 'obliterated'.  Other use the word 'destroyed'.   They mean the same in this instance that the site is destroyed.

[Moon68]

Two stories 

https://www.ft.com/content/0808eeb8-341c...b07febef91

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/25/trump-ir...-nato.html

I miss John Brennan.  

The CIA is not supposed to be a propaganda wing, and The USA is not supposed to do this exaggerating North Korea shit. 

Does hurt our national pride if Iran cleared the mountain first before it was caved in by bunker busters?

Instead, they are calling the leaked initial report false. Gabbard and Ratcliffe calling it propaganda. Fake news.

I'm glad we obliterated a bunker underground they enriched uranium in, but if there was nothing of value left, let's be freaking honest and not placate Trumps refusal to EVER put his foot in his presumptive mouth. 

Hey, maybe we need an official state media to declare how gloriously this attack went down and how our noble leader spectacularly commanded our adversaries destruction?

Let's see, 2 unnamed anonymous "officials" vs Gabbard and Ratcliffe. I'll take Gabbard and Ratcliffe for the win

[SomeStupidName]

And how would classified reports like that be verified by independent and unbiased sources?

I have about as much proof as Trump did at the time.

Then again I'm not the one claiming complete obliteration before the reports were even produced. 

You were making a couple of unverified claims. I understand you are just arguing to argue but you have no more reason to believe it wasn't a success as do it was. Understand we know where you stand but don't try to sell your opinion as hard truth. Unless you just want to argue and I would remind you there is no mud pit here.

[andy06shake]

There you go with that assumption, it's all about left vs right.

The world is far more complicated an affair even if some would have us believe otherwise. 

Saying things before you know them to be true is stupid, and he doesn't understand what he's talking about. 

Along the same silly lines of spelling your first name wrong so.....................

Again, signs of dementia really wanting to talk things into reality.

"Donakd" says so, so it must be true, and anybody that suggests otherwise, even the facts, well thats fake news. 

[FlyersFan]

Again, signs of dementia ...

He doesn't have dementia.  
He's missing nearly all of the symptoms.
What you are saying is 'dementia' is really just him being an idiot, and him lying, and him bloviating.
All politicians do it.  But he has it down to an art form.  A category unto itself.

[andy06shake]

You were making a couple of unverified claims. I understand your just arguing to argue but you have no more reason to believe it wasn't a success as do it was. Understand we know where you stand but don't try to sell your opinion as hard truth. Unless you just want to argue and I would remind you there is no mud pit here.

List my unverified claims?

As to arguing, it's a debate, not an argument, kind of what we do here.

I dont know the truth yet, and neither does Donakd or anyone else, so...................

Remind me of whatever you please, and if you dont like what i have to say, i suggest you take it up with a mod.

Because I'm well within the TnC.

Next.

[FlyersFan]

12 inches of concrete will mask radiation, especially if added shielding material has been applied. The majority of this thread is just painfully delusional idiots bemoaning Orange Man.

Feet of concrete plus hundreds of feet of rock and earth.
Anything under there isn't going to be detected.

From DUCK AI ASSIST -

Specifically, the Natanz Nuclear Facility has underground halls buried deep underground and reinforced with an 8-meter (25 ft) thick concrete and steel shell.  
The Fordow Enrichment Plant (FEP) has a three-floor underground building protected by a 2.5-meter-thick concrete structure.

[andy06shake]

He doesn't have dementia.  
He's missing nearly all of the symptoms.
What you are saying is 'dementia' is really just him being an idiot, and him lying, and him bloviating.
All politicians do it.  But he has it down to an art form.  A category unto itself.

That's not what people i know who work in old folks homes and hospitals say, including a few doctors and nurses.

And i also watched my gran go senile, there are rather a few signs from the way he stands to his stupid claims, and outright lies, he makes on a daily basis that are only getting worse.

Then there is the fact that he chooses to keep his medical history private.

If he has nothing to hide, why hide it?

[Zaphod58]

Then the goal was achieved, but complete obliteration?

Nah, not without breaking/breaching a few steel containers, if the entire facility also went pop in the manner Trump claims.

And if the material was stored there, and the damage was so complete.

You would imagine they would be able to detect at least trace amounts of the 60% enriched Uranium.

Just seems suspect to me, and did you see the big line of Trucks?

I imagine steel shielding can hinder the detection of 60% enriched uranium, depending on the thickness of the steel.   

Obviously, further information is required before coming to any sort of definitive conclusion.

And Khameni claimed Iran obliterated Al-Udeid when one missile got through and landed in a field. 

You don’t transport enriched uranium in dump trucks. They were moving dirt in to block the entrance to keep Israel from sending people in to blow the facility up.