Trump says he bombed Iran

[quintessentone]

That would actually not qualify as successful. In this case it has to reach the correct depth before it explodes, until then it's just punching a hole the diameter of itself until that depth.

Punching a hole in a concrete ceiling or ceilings, in a pancake demolition type effect, would certainly destroy the lower levels and contents. But, there seems to have been no contents, so it's a PR stunt or an allowed training mission. Chest thumping and posturing.

[andy06shake]

They won't be sharing Intel with Congress either. Why is that?

This looks more and more like sharpie gate every time Trump doubles down.

That's exactly what it is.

As to not sharing the intel with Congress, again, it speaks volumes.

[RazorV66]

Yes you love all of this war and hate...all your posts show it...we see you.

I didn't say there were independent researchers on the ground, but that I want that type of evidence.

If they are not for us to know, how do you know the sites are severely damaged?

Obviously you don't care when members of Iran's government chant "Death to America and Death to Isreal"




And obviously you also don't seem to care that the radical Iranian regime is one of the worst in the world on women's rights.

If you don't care about America and Isreal, you should at least care about women suffering under the boots of the Ayatollah's henchmen.

[RazorV66]

They won't be sharing Intel with Congress either. Why is that?

This looks more and more like sharpie gate every time Trump doubles down.

And how do you know that?

[FlyersFan]

Ha ha The Iranian officials say otherwise, prove them wrong. 

Incorrect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_WjAa_zJss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajf6CQWZF2g

Iran Says Nuclear Sites Badly Damaged

Iran’s Foreign Ministry spokesman Esmail Baghaei on Wednesday confirmed the country’s nuclear facilities had been “badly damaged” in American strikes over the weekend, amid clashing evaluations on the extent of the success of operations against Tehran’s nuclear program.

Speaking to Al Jazeera, Baghaei refused to go into detail but conceded the Sunday strikes by American B-2 bombers using bunker-buster bombs had been significant.

“Our nuclear installations have been badly damaged, that’s for sure,” he said.

NY Post - Irans Foreign Ministry Admits Nuclear Sites Badly Damaged

[andy06shake]

Punching a hole in a concrete ceiling or ceilings, in a pancake demolition type effect, would certainly destroy the lower levels and contents. But, there seems to have been no contents, so it's a PR stunt or an allowed training mission. Chest thumping and posturing.

I mean i would assume there are things like blast doors, and right-angled corridors down there, and also incorporated into the likes of the ventilation system, designed to mitigate the likes of bunker buster munitions for a start.

And it's not like they did not know they were going to be a target.

To claim complete and utter obliteration without actual evidence to back it up is fraught with issues and inconsistency.

[quintessentone]

1 - Your false personal assessment means nothing.  

I am not alone in my assessment and it does mean something here.

2 - YOU SAID you want independent deep radar information ..  which shows you don't know what you are talking about.  No independent source has that kind of ability.  It doesn't exist.   And if it did, even if it were put out on the internet, you wouldn't know how to read the information anyways.  You aren't a geologist or a military expert.  The experts would have to interpret it for you.

Yes, or semi-deep so we can see if the concrete ceilings did the pancake demolition, but I'll take Iranian officials verifying the 'obliteration' or is it now 'severely damaged', I can't keep up with the changing U.S. descriptors. I really want to see independent journalists/researchers/videographers on the ground there but we will all have to remain the dark and listen to the propaganda from all sides. How do you know my knowledge or education regarding geology or military weapons capabilities?


3 - And we know the sites are severely damaged to destroyed because the intelligence agencies from America, Israel, Iran and the United Nations have the experts looking at their information and have determined it to be such.   They are NOT going to share their intelligence nor their intelligence gathering techniques with you or anyone else on the internet.

Ha ha Okay you say we know, but then say they won't share Intel with us, but we still know? Do you read what you post?

You don't want to believe it because it doesn't fit your narrative.  That's your choice.

I am a skeptic, make me believe with evidence. That's your choice to deflect, name call, demonize, degrade etc. rather than provide a proper rebuttal and evidence.

[FlyersFan]

Claims that American, Israeli, Iranian, and UN experts all agree on classified damage assessments are unverifiable without access to the actual reports.

Nope.

We don't need access to the classified intelligence reports to know that the conclusions all say the same thing because their spokespersons, the people who have access to the classified information, have said so.

America, Israel, Iran and the United Nations all agree.  The sites were heavily damaged to destroyed.

[quintessentone]

I mean i would assume there are things like blast doors, and right-angled corridors down there, and also incorporated into the likes of the ventilation system, designed to mitigate the likes of bunker buster munitions for a start.

And it's not like they did not know they were going to be a target.

To claim complete and utter obliteration without actual evidence to back it up is fraught with issues and inconsistency.

Didn't the U.S. satellite see the trucks lining up and driving away from the facilities. What did they think they were doing there? It's beyond ridiculous.

[FlyersFan]

They won't be sharing Intel with Congress either. Why is that?

Because they only need the conclusion.  
They don't need to know how that conclusion was reached.
Congress can't be trusted with the classified information.
Have you taken a good look at them lately?
Both the Republicans and Democrats ... complete idiots.
There are many who would go running to the press with the classified information.