Trump says he bombed Iran

[Orby]

Well, Turkey is a NATO nation, Orby, with the second-largest standing army.

Israel isn't.

And article 5 is a thing.

Israel should probably leave Turkey alone...

Oh totally agree Andy they shouldn't. They had a great relationship for years. Yet when such things get mentioned, well let's see. The world's changing fast. The NATO  thing gets in the way. Probably just hen packing by Jpost

[SteamyAmerican]

Now that Iran has effectively been neutralised as a serious regional threat, I've been pondering whose next.......................             As Iran fades, Turkey emerges as Israel's biggest strategic threat https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-902070

Yup. It’s a coin-toss for me. Egypt or Turkey first? I mean Greater Israel ain’t happening without them goin down. Oh and Jordan too, an American ally. Should be interesting.

Unrelated.

When Israel loses badly, and they use the Samson Option against the world, will that be a good or bad thing ultimately? Please show your work to support your position in the discussion.

Thanks in advance.

[IDELB2006]

Trump threatens Iran over reports of assassination plans against him after Khamenei's funeral.

Trump wrote: “1000 Missiles are Locked and Loaded and aimed at the Islamic Republic of Iran, with thousands of more to immediately follow, should the Iranian Government act on its threat, pronounced in many corners of the Globe, to assassinate, or attempt to assassinate, the sitting President of the United States of America, in this case, ME!"

 He added: “Orders have already been given, and the U.S. Military is ready, willing, and able, ⁠for a one year period of time, subject to extension, to completely decimate and destroy all areas of Iran – PRAISE BE TO ALLAH!”

Link

[Orby]

Yup. It’s a coin-toss for me. Egypt or Turkey first? I mean Greater Israel ain’t happening without them goin down. Oh and Jordan too, an American ally. Should be interesting.

Unrelated.

When Israel loses badly, and they use the Samson Option against the world, will that be a good or bad thing ultimately? Please show your work to support your position in the discussion.

Thanks in advance.

A coin toss! Lol yes. It's like that while if the JPost states Turkey is next in line I strongly believe it's time to take note. Jordan's in the bag already, they are never going to be a threat to Israel. Don't get me wrong, Jerusalem might eye up the land east of the river for living space. They will need new lands the way the population is growing. Lebanon might provide this, Syria too. Jordan? Possible. Yet they play it very carefully with the Yanks and Israel. I think we can forget Jordan. Turkey can be taken out. Yes the population is relatively large, the military is decent too, yet they don't have nukes so Israel can destroy them if necessary. It might be a triple action by Cyprus, Greece and Israel together. Constantinople needs retaking for the West, maybe the Serbs will throw their lot in at the same time, provide some support for the attack on Turkey, while cleaning up the Islamists in the Balkans while they're at it. Kurds will come in from the east. Turkey will be taken down without the need for nukes. Only thing is where Trump sits on this, it appears he's far happier with Turkey right now than the unhelpful European nations. In the grand scheme of things and the pressure behind the scenes, I don't believe Trump will have much actual say in the events as they unfold bar parroting what he's been advised, higher forces exist in this world that create these events. If Israel ever decides to properly take off the gloves, even Turkey can be taken out. Assuming they get the all important initial knock out punch in first 

[Oldcarpy2]

A coin toss! Lol yes. It's like that while if the JPost states Turkey is next in line I strongly believe it's time to take note. Jordan's in the bag already, they are never going to be a threat to Israel. Don't get me wrong, Jerusalem might eye up the land east of the river for living space. They will need new lands the way the population is growing. Lebanon might provide this, Syria too. Jordan? Possible. Yet they play it very carefully with the Yanks and Israel. I think we can forget Jordan. Turkey can be taken out. Yes the population is relatively large, the military is decent too, yet they don't have nukes so Israel can destroy them if necessary. It might be a triple action by Cyprus, Greece and Israel together. Constantinople needs retaking for the West, maybe the Serbs will throw their lot in at the same time, provide some support for the attack on Turkey, while cleaning up the Islamists in the Balkans while they're at it. Kurds will come in from the east. Turkey will be taken down without the need for nukes. Only thing is where Trump sits on this, it appears he's far happier with Turkey right now than the unhelpful European nations. In the grand scheme of things and the pressure behind the scenes, I don't believe Trump will have much actual say in the events as they unfold bar parroting what he's been advised, higher forces exist in this world that create these events. If Israel ever decides to properly take off the gloves, even Turkey can be taken out. Assuming they get the all important initial knock out punch in first 

Turkey is a member of NATO so.....calling BS.

[Oldcarpy2]

BBC News - Trump administration subpoenas New York Times journalists over Air Force One reporting

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpd3g8q51g7o

So he's cracking down on Journalists reporting on his Quatari flying palace Air Force One.

The MAGA frogs over there must be boiling by now 
.

The man's a maggot.

PS.  Apologies, link not working.....m

* fixed

[Orby]

Turkey is a member of NATO so.....calling BS.

Know where you're coming from 

[IDELB2006]

BBC News - Trump administration subpoenas New York Times journalists over Air Force One reportinghttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpd3g8q51g7o

So he's cracking down on Journalists reporting on his Quatari flying palace Air Force One.

The MAGA frogs over there must be boiling by now 
.

The man's a maggot.

PS.  Apologies, link not working.....m

That has been standard practice from the beginning.

He also prosecuted his former security advisor for name calling. Trumps goons were able to force a confession. 
Link1

And he may be prosecuting a former adviser soon for playing with his toy.
Link2

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

They are really after the SS agent that told them about it. NYT also ignored an FBI request not to run the story w/National Security rundown.

The New York Times reported that a Qatari-donated Boeing 747-8 intended for use as Air Force One lacks advanced antimissile countermeasures, updated communication systems, and essential security features present on the older presidential jet. The report highlighted that accelerated retrofitting for luxury and comfort overshadowed critical security modifications. Read the full story at The New York Times.

I didnt know the Qatari gifted version lacked antimissile capabilities. Now I do. And so does the rest of the world.

While the press printing classified info is generally protected,  if it poses an immediate threat to national security (like the vulnerability of Qatair Force One) they have a case.

By every legal interpretation of "immediate threat," revealing that knowledge qualifies as actionable.

No catch either. No federal shield protection. No absolute First Amendment. Just angles.

They have to acknowledge the subpoena and then answer Grand Jury questions. Though they can move to quash or challenge internal standards to refuse, they basically are compelled to have to go tattle now.

And can constitutionally be held in contempt if they dont..

It sucks for the oblivious people, and they can try make a case for "an authoritarian reigning in of the press,"  but from the LEGAL standpoint, Trump can use a grand jury to flush the rat and intimidate the NYT journalists here.
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Even if his impatience prioritized luxury and he was relying on people assuming it was as secure as all others. 

The 5th is even N/A here, because they are not being forced to incriminate themselves.

[DennisR6]

They are really after the SS agent that told them about it. NYT also ignored an FBI request not to run the story w/National Security rundown.

I didnt know the Qatari gifted version lacked antimissile capabilities. Now I do. And so does the rest of the world.

While the press printing classified info is generally protected,  if it poses an immediate threat to national security (like the vulnerability of Qatair Force One) they have a case.

By every legal interpretation of "immediate threat," revealing that knowledge qualifies as actionable.

No catch either. No federal shield protection. No absolute First Amendment. Just angles.

They have to acknowledge the subpoena and then answer Grand Jury questions. Though they can move to quash or challenge internal standards to refuse, they basically are compelled to have to go tattle now.

And can constitutionally be held in contempt if they dont..

It sucks for the oblivious people, and they can try make a case for "an authoritarian reigning in of the press,"  but from the LEGAL standpoint, Trump can use a grand jury to flush the rat and intimidate the NYT journalists here.
​​​​​
Even if his impatience prioritized luxury and he was relying on people assuming it was as secure as all others. 

The 5th is even N/A here, because they are not being forced to incriminate themselves.

The times had already been highly skeptical about the security of the plane well before the flight. And as you pointed out, had they not printed this story then I would not have known.
Subsequently if the admin or SS had decided to continue and not alert anyone then not a single person would know the better.
I can see this being dropped fast.