Trump says he bombed Iran

[govshill2]

They Stand FIRM!!!       

[worldstarcountry]

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Dang I swear it is hard to match the eloquent and clear speech of our next POTUS. He is the man. Israel is very upset, so like a bully that finally loses a fight, they will probably come back and do a drive-by shooting out of sheer anger at the poor fragile ego being defeated by people who can and do actually fight back.

It was never really an American war against Iran, it was always Israeli. We were just a hammer being wielded by Likud.

That mechanism of deconfliction that is being established according to JD, that may well be the best thing to date that has came out of this. Imagine when Mossad finds its next Arab Uncle Toms like they did with Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and they get told things are too quiet so they need to shoot another bottle rocket into a field so the IDF can bomb some residential complexes. This typically leads to Hezbollah retaliation, and then the media characterizes the response to Israeli demolition as a genuine fresh attack but does not even discuss the disproportionate response to a bottle rocket that landed in an open field, likely by a sympathetic asset working for them like the Palestinian Islamic Jihad would often do. It sounds like the way JD explains it this deconfliction mechanism is designed to bypass that Israeli response and the generations old media trick they use to rationalize it all.

However, I say stay frosty. That  nagging feeling in the back of my head that this is merely a ploy to remove the mines and then send the amphibious assault  and carrier strike groups for some aggressive kinetic island diplomacy under the cover of  a violation refuses to go away. I hope it is a paranoid delusion and will continue to treat it as such in an effort to prevent it from becoming reality.

[Oldcarpy2]

Can someone please explain why Jared Kushner is involved in these negotiations?

[andy06shake]

Can someone please explain why Jared Kushner is involved in these negotiations?

Maybe there is another fantasy island on the table or up for sale? 

[govshill2]

Can someone please explain why Jared Kushner is involved in these negotiations?

He is: "United States Special Envoy for Peace Missions"

[Oldcarpy2]

He is: "United States Special Envoy for Peace Missions"

Yes, but stinks of nepotism, no?

[andy06shake]

[chr0naut]

You can't hide. You are caught changing and twisting because U can't see what happened.  
Sorry.     You've totally missed the point of why the other countries (and The U.N.) failed when The U.S. dropped out in 2018.  It's actually obvious, but you aren't seeing it.  
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No, the other countries and the UN continued to abide by the JCPOA.

Can you post a link to any evidence that the other countries failed?

[Knows]

Bullshit.

It is true that the JCPOA did not allow unannounced inspections of Iranian military bases or deal with their development of ballistic missiles or deal with their support for proxy militants like Hezbollah.  So what?  It wasn't intended to.  It was intended for one thing only, and that was to move Iran back from the brink of being able to dash towards producing nuclear weapons.  And it did that quite well.  Much better than anything Trump said he would do or has actually done.  Before the JCPOA Iran had enough enriched uranium to produce about 10 bombs and enough centrifuges to turn that into weapons grade material in a matter of weeks.  After the JCPOA was signed and before Obama released Iran's money back to them, they had moved 98% of their enriched uranium out of the country and decommissioned half of their centrifuges.  As I mentioned before, every gram of Iran's uranium was accounted for before the Agreement was signed.  That left very much less than enough enriched uranium in Iran to produce even one bomb and greatly increased the time required to make a dash to a bomb.  If Trump had not pulled out of the Agreement that would have still been the case in 2025 when Trump came back into office. Instead, by the time he left office in 2021, Iran was already back in the business of enriching uranium and he did absolutely nothing to deal with that fact.

So the fact that the JCPOA did not allow unannounced inspections of Iranian military bases or deal with their ballistic missiles or with their support for proxy militants like Hezbollah does not in any way diminish the fact that the JCPOA stopped and then reversed Iran's progress toward nuclear weapons.  

Conversely, the fact that Trump pulled out of the JCPOA did not in any way advance progress with Iranian military base inspections, ballistic missiles, or proxy militants.  He voluntarily gave away a valuable concession on Iran's part to pull back from producing nuclear weapons material and got absolutely nothing in return.  

Stop trying to blame Trump's failures on somebody else.

Someone has to man up and not just kick the can down the road. And that's what Trump has done.

[Knows]

No U.S loan, if so, can you point to where?

The sanctions coming down just remove barriers so Iran can trade oil, and access frozen assets.

They can get investment from private gulf or foreign firms, but that's not "Arab countries loaning Iran" per se.

Do continue...

Anyone can give them a loan. Nobody said the US is loaning or giving them money. Access to frozen assets is conditional. Whether or not Iran keeps the agreements.