Trump says he bombed Iran

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Hi


I stand....educated?

Naw.  I'm a terrible educator, but trying to get a full Trump supporter to admit fallibility in Trump's actions is exaxtly like trying to get fundimentalists to consider the fallibility of red-texted scripture.

[andy06shake]

[chr0naut]

So if all the other Countries failed to stop Iran and uphold, and were so dependent on The U.S. as the singular strength, looks like Trump may have been right in saying the deal was rigged! 

The deal wasn't 'rigged' by any means - the USA wasn't loosing out on it.

The JCPOA was 1/40th as onerous to the USA as Trumb's current MOA. He is incapable of negotiating a more optimal deal.

Can't hide from The Sun.  
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That is untrue. You can simply wear comfortable clothing and a hat that covers you, or go inside, or wait until night.

Many of the slogans of the radicalized are irrational.

[chr0naut]

Sure you're not really Professor Karl Zero?

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I do have ancestors from France but that was many generations ago.

No, I am a French singer and TV personality.

[govshill2]

The deal wasn't 'rigged' by any means - the USA wasn't loosing out on it.

The JCPOA was 1/40th as onerous to the USA as Trumb's current MOA. He is incapable of negotiating a more optimal deal.


That is untrue. You can simply wear comfortable clothing and a hat that covers you, or go inside, or wait until night.

Many of the slogans of the radicalized are irrational.

You can't hide. You are caught changing and twisting because U can't see what happened.  
Sorry.     You've totally missed the point of why the other countries (and The U.N.) failed when The U.S. dropped out in 2018.  It's actually obvious, but you aren't seeing it.  

[worldstarcountry]

As to the Scientology proposition.

Im heartbroken, i was going to catch a flight right over, and we could have gotten audited together. 

We did some survey work down in Clearwater in front of their HQ last year. Dude, after certain bells the streets are loaded with blue suited men and women hustling to and fro up and down about five blocks. I would say  with a degree of certainty, that the majority of the females seem to fit a specific height and build, right about runway model height but not nearly as skinny. The creepy ones are the brown suits (brown shirts  ). There are only ever a handful and it seems like they are a supervisory tier. They seem to delegate and coordinate tasks to the blues as they cross paths.

[EXETER]

The Biden regime.

Bullshit.

It is true that the JCPOA did not allow unannounced inspections of Iranian military bases or deal with their development of ballistic missiles or deal with their support for proxy militants like Hezbollah.  So what?  It wasn't intended to.  It was intended for one thing only, and that was to move Iran back from the brink of being able to dash towards producing nuclear weapons.  And it did that quite well.  Much better than anything Trump said he would do or has actually done.  Before the JCPOA Iran had enough enriched uranium to produce about 10 bombs and enough centrifuges to turn that into weapons grade material in a matter of weeks.  After the JCPOA was signed and before Obama released Iran's money back to them, they had moved 98% of their enriched uranium out of the country and decommissioned half of their centrifuges.  As I mentioned before, every gram of Iran's uranium was accounted for before the Agreement was signed.  That left very much less than enough enriched uranium in Iran to produce even one bomb and greatly increased the time required to make a dash to a bomb.  If Trump had not pulled out of the Agreement that would have still been the case in 2025 when Trump came back into office. Instead, by the time he left office in 2021, Iran was already back in the business of enriching uranium and he did absolutely nothing to deal with that fact.

So the fact that the JCPOA did not allow unannounced inspections of Iranian military bases or deal with their ballistic missiles or with their support for proxy militants like Hezbollah does not in any way diminish the fact that the JCPOA stopped and then reversed Iran's progress toward nuclear weapons.  

Conversely, the fact that Trump pulled out of the JCPOA did not in any way advance progress with Iranian military base inspections, ballistic missiles, or proxy militants.  He voluntarily gave away a valuable concession on Iran's part to pull back from producing nuclear weapons material and got absolutely nothing in return.  

Stop trying to blame Trump's failures on somebody else.

[DBCowboy]

I think I'll be done posting in this thread.  Too many anti-American, anti-Trump folks just shouting in an echo chamber now.

Regardless of what your pious rants say, things are going to happen regardless.

And when things get better, maybe I'll come back to this thread and say, "Told you so".

 

Happy Fathers Day.

I'm having a ribeye and beer tonite.

[govshill2]

Bullshit.

It is true that the JCPOA did not allow unannounced inspections of Iranian military bases or deal with their development of ballistic missiles or deal with their support for proxy militants like Hezbollah.  So what?  It wasn't intended to.  It was intended for one thing only, and that was to move Iran back from the brink of being able to dash towards producing nuclear weapons.  And it did that quite well.  Much better than anything Trump said he would do or has actually done.  Before the JCPOA Iran had enough enriched uranium to produce about 10 bombs and enough centrifuges to turn that into weapons grade material in a matter of weeks.  After the JCPOA was signed and before Obama released Iran's money back to them, they had moved 98% of their enriched uranium out of the country and decommissioned half of their centrifuges.  As I mentioned before, every gram of Iran's uranium was accounted for before the Agreement was signed.  That left very much less than enough enriched uranium in Iran to produce even one bomb and greatly increased the time required to make a dash to a bomb.  If Trump had not pulled out of the Agreement that would have still been the case in 2025 when Trump came back into office. Instead, by the time he left office in 2021, Iran was already back in the business of enriching uranium and he did absolutely nothing to deal with that fact.

So the fact that the JCPOA did not allow unannounced inspections of Iranian military bases or deal with their ballistic missiles or with their support for proxy militants like Hezbollah does not in any way diminish the fact that the JCPOA stopped and then reversed Iran's progress toward nuclear weapons.  

Conversely, the fact that Trump pulled out of the JCPOA did not in any way advance progress with Iranian military base inspections, ballistic missiles, or proxy militants.  He voluntarily gave away a valuable concession on Iran's part to pull back from producing nuclear weapons material and got absolutely nothing in return.  

Stop trying to blame Trump's failures on somebody else.

Did The original JCPOA specifically word "the JCPOA did not allow unannounced inspections of Iranian military bases"?  Or was it somehow implied or veiled?  Or, did that get verbally inserted by Iran at later times?

[DennisR6]

I think I'll be done posting in this thread.  Too many anti-American, anti-Trump folks just shouting in an echo chamber now.

Regardless of what your pious rants say, things are going to happen regardless.

And when things get better, maybe I'll come back to this thread and say, "Told you so".

 

Happy Fathers Day.

I'm having a ribeye and beer tonite.

You're the one wanting more Americans to die for someone else's war. You seem to enjoy innocent women and children being killed so you can say you supported Israel against all others even your own country. 
You sit idly by and gleefully cheer on your own demise with blind support for people that have absolutely ZERO interest in your life in any regard. But somehow others with others peoples well being in mind are somehow anti-American or whatever flavor you decide on for the day.
Happy Fathers day to you. Enjoy your food and drink