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(4 hours ago)SteamyAmerican Wrote: Well I am also sympathetic to the plight of middle America and the need of diapers. I am also concerned with middle America's obsession with scratch off tickets, and multiple 25 oz beer cans everyday, and packs of cigarettes, and nicotine pouches, and expensive sneakers, and weekly/monthly subscriptions to mind rot, and absurd car loans to look and feel admired, and borrowing money from rich corporations everyday just to eat with the cool people and laugh bout how awesome they are, or snacky cakes. Boxes and boxes of snacky cakes to push that insulin resistance through the roof. The rich and powerful archtype will always exist as long as a structured human society exists no matter the culture . The real problem is the mentality which freely and willfully continues to volunteer away all the energy expended to chase money (other energy) and give it away to others enriching themselves. The pack a day of tobacco is not dealing with stress or taking the edge off ... it is just transferring middle America's hard work into the wallet of someone thousands of miles away. And compounding the effects of physical and emotional destruction.
Example A : Joe/Jane America 1 buy snacky cakes everyday for his/her end of day dopamine stress release. Let us say one single unit, a single unit 25 oz can of beer, and the pack of cigs bought in the morning split across three days. its about 1.99 -2.39 on average for snacky cake todays convenience checkout. The 25 oz beverage is at least the same amount. The cigarettes was like $8.00 if I am splitting the difference from 5 dollar cheap cheyennes or 305's and the high end benson and hedges American spirits type over 11 dollars. Newports vary in this 8$ range now alot. So like 2.65 - 2.80 for the daily unit count. Thats not quite ten dollars a day just on those three daily routine items, but will be after sales tax depending on state and I worked at a gas station very busy ones and some not so. These are daily standard routines for hundreds of thousands, millions of individuals of middle America based solely on the sheer volume I witnessed in a small growing urban metro area. That is nearly fifty dollar a week that will not build value, generate dividends, or contribute to a growing business model of production and/or service. $200/ month in three simple individual voluntary consumption items. I did not even bother with the scratch off tickets they buy, use your imagination
Example B : Kevin/Martha America 2 lives out the same daily grind at the exact same employer. Makes the same exact stops with the same exact people. Goes in just to grab a drink from the water fountain and use the bathroom. Instead of spending that same exact dollar amount daily/weekly/monthly they take that same dollar amount and buy shares of a company or etf. They read, and they study freely with the time and money they no longer volunteered to rich board members with their streaming media subscription. They also contribute and invest this savings to the examples, but we will keep it simple with the amounts from the three alone. The dividends pays monthly or quarterly from the ETF's and the individual companies with structured cash flow and revenue generation streams in the realm of 3-7% or more. Or, understood from another side of the coin, the same consumers making investor/owners wealthier through their voluntary consumption choices. Risk Tolerances (personal fear management) control whether you go for higher multipliers or safer lower ones, but stuff is multiplying no matter what you believe in or the ideas of right or wrong.
Year one, direct cash allocations have generated 0$ under this model for Joe/Jane because they were just operating on a lower frequency of distraction and blame. Kevin and Martha accumulated $2400, at say a modest 4.6% interest for an extra 110$. Seems pitiful, but they have it, and Jane and Joe do not despite all of their gnashing of the teeth and platitudes of fairness and the evil elites. That 2510 depending on the employer they have and a 401k match could easily be double that, goes on into the next year, with growing contributions and continue revenue. This is without assuming they actually invested in emerging industry and technology companies and everything the state demands with contracts etc.. etc..
Same employer, same team even same exact crew with virtually identical income brackets. Our choices and our thoughts based on opportunities available will dictate outcomes above all else.
But war sucks too, and it looks like maybe we can find out if we can continue to play oil options game by Monday afternoon or whether more stable longer term trends are coming up. I much prefer to longer term stuff because once it stabilizes it is consistent and pretty safe and reliable with permanent vigilance. Volatility can be quite the windfall though if your bold and fast. That is a quite an IF though and volatility more often operates like scratch-offs with slightly better odds than scratch-offs vs typical structured long term development.
Can we all just do some damn business together please?
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(3 hours ago)worldstarcountry Wrote: Well I am also sympathetic to the plight of middle America and the need of diapers. I am also concerned with middle America's obsession with scratch off tickets, and multiple 25 oz beer cans everyday, and packs of cigarettes, and nicotine pouches, and expensive sneakers, and weekly/monthly subscriptions to mind rot, and absurd car loans to look and feel admired, and borrowing money from rich corporations everyday just to eat with the cool people and laugh bout how awesome they are, or snacky cakes. Boxes and boxes of snacky cakes to push that insulin resistance through the roof. The rich and powerful archtype will always exist as long as a structured human society exists no matter the culture . The real problem is the mentality which freely and willfully continues to volunteer away all the energy expended to chase money (other energy) and give it away to others enriching themselves. The pack a day of tobacco is not dealing with stress or taking the edge off ... it is just transferring middle America's hard work into the wallet of someone thousands of miles away. And compounding the effects of physical and emotional destruction.
Example A : Joe/Jane America 1 buy snacky cakes everyday for his/her end of day dopamine stress release. Let us say one single unit, a single unit 25 oz can of beer, and the pack of cigs bought in the morning split across three days. its about 1.99 -2.39 on average for snacky cake todays convenience checkout. The 25 oz beverage is at least the same amount. The cigarettes was like $8.00 if I am splitting the difference from 5 dollar cheap cheyennes or 305's and the high end benson and hedges American spirits type over 11 dollars. Newports vary in this 8$ range now alot. So like 2.65 - 2.80 for the daily unit count. Thats not quite ten dollars a day just on those three daily routine items, but will be after sales tax depending on state and I worked at a gas station very busy ones and some not so. These are daily standard routines for hundreds of thousands, millions of individuals of middle America based solely on the sheer volume I witnessed in a small growing urban metro area. That is nearly fifty dollar a week that will not build value, generate dividends, or contribute to a growing business model of production and/or service. $200/ month in three simple individual voluntary consumption items. I did not even bother with the scratch off tickets they buy, use your imagination
Example B : Kevin/Martha America 2 lives out the same daily grind at the exact same employer. Makes the same exact stops with the same exact people. Goes in just to grab a drink from the water fountain and use the bathroom. Instead of spending that same exact dollar amount daily/weekly/monthly they take that same dollar amount and buy shares of a company or etf. They read, and they study freely with the time and money they no longer volunteered to rich board members with their streaming media subscription. They also contribute and invest this savings to the examples, but we will keep it simple with the amounts from the three alone. The dividends pays monthly or quarterly from the ETF's and the individual companies with structured cash flow and revenue generation streams in the realm of 3-7% or more. Or, understood from another side of the coin, the same consumers making investor/owners wealthier through their voluntary consumption choices. Risk Tolerances (personal fear management) control whether you go for higher multipliers or safer lower ones, but stuff is multiplying no matter what you believe in or the ideas of right or wrong.
Year one, direct cash allocations have generated 0$ under this model for Joe/Jane because they were just operating on a lower frequency of distraction and blame. Kevin and Martha accumulated $2400, at say a modest 4.6% interest for an extra 110$. Seems pitiful, but they have it, and Jane and Joe do not despite all of their gnashing of the teeth and platitudes of fairness and the evil elites. That 2510 depending on the employer they have and a 401k match could easily be double that, goes on into the next year, with growing contributions and continue revenue. This is without assuming they actually invested in emerging industry and technology companies and everything the state demands with contracts etc.. etc..
Same employer, same team even same exact crew with virtually identical income brackets. Our choices and our thoughts based on opportunities available will dictate outcomes above all else.
But war sucks too, and it looks like maybe we can find out if we can continue to play oil options game by Monday afternoon or whether more stable longer term trends are coming up. I much prefer to longer term stuff because once it stabilizes it is consistent and pretty safe and reliable with permanent vigilance. Volatility can be quite the windfall though if your bold and fast. That is a quite an IF though and volatility more often operates like scratch-offs with slightly better odds than scratch-offs vs typical structured long term development.
Can we all just do some damn business together please?
Fuck. I feel attacked.
ETA: you obviously don’t live in California. On a side-note I hear what you’re saying and I agree on the one hand. On the other, encouraging others to get in on the manipulated-market grift as does our president and his ilk, might not be the path to world peace I’m searching for.
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(5 hours ago)worldstarcountry Wrote: Nothing prevents the consumer from being an investor. You can do options the same as the leaders do. Just because it does not turn you into Jeff Bozo or Ze'lon Musk or Trumpel Stiltskin does not mean you do not earn. You just earn proportional to what your putting in. They are only operating the same exact algorithm you are allowed to also freely participate in, at least in America. Once your debt reduction plan has delivered your desired goal through fiscal discipline, the surplus builds fast.
So much poverty is self inflicted by what we just give away to that which does not generate or return for us. They bothered to care to learn how it operates. Would you care to learn how it operates and make it work for you, or is being an audience member preferable? I believe it to be a valid thought process. Explore it with less fear and resentment.
It could change your life like Dianetics!
[Video: https://youtu.be/vAYWvj1UicI]
No no im just being cheeky, Do not go sign up for Scientology.
I do fine and make enouth to get by.
I don't want lots of money worldstarcountry.
Just what i need to survive and provide for my family and kids.
Investing is just not my bag.
I don't even like putting money in banks.
But cheers for the advice.
As to the Scientology proposition.
Im heartbroken, i was going to catch a flight right over, and we could have gotten audited together.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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“Damnit Iran! How dare you let Israel continue to attack Lebanon! You’re messing it all up!”
- Trump while Vance is en route to “talks”.
We are so fucked.
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(4 hours ago)SteamyAmerican Wrote: What other countries failed to stop Iran from doing what exactly?
Wasn’t the Strait open before this excursion there at Israel’s behest?
We were talking about what happened after Trump withdrew from the original JCPOA in 2018 and why everything fell apart without The U.S. being involved. The Uranium enrichment accelerated and Iran kept denying "access to" military bases for inspection.
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(2 hours ago)govshill2 Wrote: We were talking about what happened after Trump withdrew from the original JCPOA in 2018 and why everything fell apart without The U.S. being involved. The Uranium enrichment accelerated and Iran kept denying "access to" military bases for inspection.
Oh. Thanks.
i heard that thing was working okay until Trump stepped away from it.
Good thing we are two weeks away from bombing the Strait back open and a year ago this thread was started.
*shrugs
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(1 hour ago)SteamyAmerican Wrote: Oh. Thanks.
i heard that thing was working okay until Trump stepped away from it.
Good thing we are two weeks away from bombing the Strait back open and a year ago this thread was started.
*shrugs
Not so much
AI overviewPresident Donald Trump withdrew the United States from the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) because he viewed it as "defective at its core". He argued that the 2015 agreement failed to adequately protect American security interests and was too generous to the Iranian regime. [ 1, 2, 3, 4]His primary criticisms and reasons for canceling the deal included: - Inadequate Inspections: He believed the agreement did not allow international weapons inspectors sufficient access to Iranian military sites to verify compliance. [1]
- No Limits on Ballistic Missiles: The deal did not restrict Iran’s development of ballistic missiles, which could eventually threaten the U.S. mainland or regional allies. [1, 2, 3]
- Malign Regional Influence: Trump argued the agreement failed to stop Iran from supporting terrorism and fueling proxy wars and sectarian violence in countries like Syria and Yemen. [1, 2]
- Temporary Restrictions: He criticized the "sunset clauses," which allowed key restrictions on Iran's nuclear infrastructure and uranium enrichment to phase out over time. [1, 2]
- Financial Windfall: Trump maintained that lifting economic sanctions enriched the regime, providing Iran with additional financial resources to fund its missile program and regional activities. [1]
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(1 hour ago)Knows Wrote: Not so much 
AI overviewPresident Donald Trump withdrew the United States from the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) because he viewed it as "defective at its core". He argued that the 2015 agreement failed to adequately protect American security interests and was too generous to the Iranian regime. [1, 2, 3, 4]His primary criticisms and reasons for canceling the deal included:- Inadequate Inspections: He believed the agreement did not allow international weapons inspectors sufficient access to Iranian military sites to verify compliance. [1]
- No Limits on Ballistic Missiles: The deal did not restrict Iran’s development of ballistic missiles, which could eventually threaten the U.S. mainland or regional allies. [1, 2, 3]
- Malign Regional Influence: Trump argued the agreement failed to stop Iran from supporting terrorism and fueling proxy wars and sectarian violence in countries like Syria and Yemen. [1, 2]
- Temporary Restrictions: He criticized the "sunset clauses," which allowed key restrictions on Iran's nuclear infrastructure and uranium enrichment to phase out over time. [1, 2]
- Financial Windfall: Trump maintained that lifting economic sanctions enriched the regime, providing Iran with additional financial resources to fund its missile program and regional activities. [1]
Thanks for the AI overview.
If he thought all this then, why’d he wait a decade?
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(57 minutes ago)SteamyAmerican Wrote: Thanks for the AI overview.
If he thought all this then, why’d he wait a decade?
The Biden regime.
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(1 hour ago)Knows Wrote: Not so much 
AI overviewPresident Donald Trump withdrew the United States from the Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) because he viewed it as "defective at its core". He argued that the 2015 agreement failed to adequately protect American security interests and was too generous to the Iranian regime. [1, 2, 3, 4]His primary criticisms and reasons for canceling the deal included:- Inadequate Inspections: He believed the agreement did not allow international weapons inspectors sufficient access to Iranian military sites to verify compliance. [1]
- No Limits on Ballistic Missiles: The deal did not restrict Iran’s development of ballistic missiles, which could eventually threaten the U.S. mainland or regional allies. [1, 2, 3]
- Malign Regional Influence: Trump argued the agreement failed to stop Iran from supporting terrorism and fueling proxy wars and sectarian violence in countries like Syria and Yemen. [1, 2]
- Temporary Restrictions: He criticized the "sunset clauses," which allowed key restrictions on Iran's nuclear infrastructure and uranium enrichment to phase out over time. [1, 2]
- Financial Windfall: Trump maintained that lifting economic sanctions enriched the regime, providing Iran with additional financial resources to fund its missile program and regional activities. [1]
And his "deal" is better, how?
Clown World.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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