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Iran has closed the strait again. Hopefully they sort this out soon.
According to Trump we are a month away from running out of reserves.
Quote:Strait closure: Iran says it is closing the vital Strait of Hormuz in response to what it described as Israeli ceasefire violations in Lebanon and a US failure to implement the first clause of a tentative agreement to end the war. The US military denied Iran’s claim to control the strait and said it would ensure traffic continues to flow.
• US-Iran talks: Meanwhile, officials from Tehran and Washington are headed to negotiations in Switzerland. Vice President JD Vance is traveling to the Swiss talks today to head up the US delegation. Mediators are hoping to keep discussions on track and reach a lasting peace deal within a 60-day time frame laid out by the initial agreement.
• Lebanon strikes: Persistent fighting between Israeli forces and Hezbollah has been threatening the diplomatic process. At least 16 people were killed today in renewed Israeli airstrikes on southern Lebanon. Israel said it was retaliating for Hezbollah attacks.
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(Yesterday, 12:06 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: Iran has closed the strait again. Hopefully they sort this out soon.
According to Trump we are a month away from running out of reserves.
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That may just be domestic consumption, the data on Marine Traffic seems to indicate continued traffic.
I think sometimes after these little deals are done, Iran just spins some headlines for domestic consumption, but then in an effort to make Trump look bad his detractors point to the stuff and blow it up all over the internet due to motives of course.
Diplomats are still en route to to meet. CENTCOM and JD Vance say no indication this is actually happening. Maybe we should start yelling at each other for fifteen pages again?
(06-19-2026, 10:50 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Israel is their own nation with different interests. I think they should be able to enact their own foreign policy.
Often it is different than the American people's interest, so I think it's time we let them go their way and we go ours. If America said they are out of the war, then Israel should be responsible for their own path forward. We're out, if they want to continue they're on their own.
This is most certainly the preferred course of action. Iran and the USA can agree to continue doing business with the world, and we can simply not send Israel anymore equipment or intelligence support while they try to invade Lebanon and dodge Iranian missiles and drones. Anyone who thinks this is cruel just fall back to the same excuse that was used for Russia. Israel can hop right back over that border and stay on their side of the fence. Of course to save face, they will simply start napalming GAZA with no shame. They do not have Palestinian Islamic Jihad to jump when they ask anymore though, so it will just be the same dehumanizing supremacist rhetoric from the likes of Ben Gvir.
Israel only has to in good faith stop demolishing any and all residential buildings in Gaza or Lebanon and they will stop resisting the imposed violence. It would probably help if they stopped just snipering kids looking for scraps and shelling vehicles with families in it. Or opening fire on the starving running to the limited time food aid distributions. Or defending state sponsored rapes of inmates ..... the list could go on and on ... perhaps a simple former Google philosophy would do. Dont be Evil.
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(Yesterday, 12:49 PM)worldstarcountry Wrote: That may just be domestic consumption, the data on Marine Traffic seems to indicate continued traffic.
I think sometimes after these little deals are done, Iran just spins some headlines for domestic consumption, but then in an effort to make Trump look bad his detractors point to the stuff and blow it up all over the internet due to motives of course.
Diplomats are still en route to to meet. CENTCOM and JD Vance say no indication this is actually happening. Maybe we should start yelling at each other for fifteen pages again?
That may be. It still would be bad for prices. Trump has on occasion exaggerated as well.
It also would not surprise me if Iran is Intentionally dragging this out. It would likely cause more harm for us than it will for them.
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Trump still trying to get Iran to stop charging tolls.
Quote:There will be NO TOLLS in the Hormuz Strait for 60 days during the Cease Fire Period, and there will be NO TOLLS after the 60 day period has expired, unless they are imposed by and for the United States of America, should the deal not be completed, for services rendered as the Guardian Angel to the countries of the Middle East for purposes of both past, present, and future reimbursement of costs," Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social.
Guardian Angel?
Wow, this is getting good.
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(Yesterday, 05:07 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: Trump still trying to get Iran to stop charging tolls.
Guardian Angel?
Wow, this is getting good.
That just reads to me that after 60 days, Trump's going to charge tolls...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(Yesterday, 05:11 PM)andy06shake Wrote: That just reads to me that after 60 days, Trump's going to charge tolls...
It would not surprise me.
It almost sounds normal to have the US Navy shaking down every passing ship, as if its some kind of protection racket.
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(Yesterday, 05:30 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: It would not surprise me.
It almost sounds normal to have the US Navy shaking down every passing ship, as if its some kind of protection racket.
Careful, that almost sounds like modern-day piracy...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(Yesterday, 05:11 PM)andy06shake Wrote: That just reads to me that after 60 days, Trump's going to charge tolls...
Yep. Trump can't go more that a few days at a time without inventing another criminal enterprise. It's what he does best.
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(06-19-2026, 07:54 PM)govshill2 Wrote: Can't answer the question I see. OK.
There was an international agreement.
Trumb pulled the USA out of their bit of the agreement in 2019. From that time, all other signatory countries abided by the agreement.
Trumb was the 'faithless' one.
Quote:The Brilliance outshines The whole Sun. 
The dullness sucks like a tar-pit.
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(Yesterday, 05:11 PM)andy06shake Wrote: That just reads to me that after 60 days, Trump's going to charge tolls...
and you said we wouldn't get anything out of this pffttt...
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