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(Yesterday, 01:08 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Say whatever, but I think peace is more possible then ever because how everything found its mutual interest of defense and secular society, but also obscene luxury, class segregated airport terminals, and Arab oil money Gentrification.
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I honestly dont think Israel was ever going to mess this up because they were given carte blanche into Lebanon all along. And Iran expressed the most vocal outrage.
All I know is in the past, when Israel needed to muddy things up it was typically Palestinian Islamic Jihad who would fire the bottle rocket that lands in an empty field and rarely even started a brush fire. Which Israel utilizes as the justification for mass air strikes on residential compounds. Funny thing is when Hamas actually began executing those Palestinian Islamic Jihadis, who always took credit for the bottle rockets that IDF would use 500lb + bombs to annihilate entire neighborhoods in retaliation, Israeli polticians were defending them openly and in the media??
Oh, I am certain that is not connected to the IDF admission of being able to infiltrate the land of their largest rival a thousand miles away, setup entire fire zones with ballistic and drone weapons inside the borders of their enemy, and attack from within. They could obviously never do that literally right next door to a small non-state urban zone in order to use as a justification for retaliatory demolition objectives against civilian housing .... yea sure try to take all that in and dismiss it with a straight face.
Once someone learns to put it all together and remember that Israelis are not superior to the rest of humanity, it is much easier to see the grand deception they have been pulling off for generations. China did urge Israel to keep the peace though, which I think is new ... That was interesting.
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(Yesterday, 06:17 PM)chr0naut Wrote: .... Trumb's stupid war, ...... Yes, I agree, it was a very stupid war. However, if it generates interest through a $300 billion dollar development fund (not free money from the tax payer), and eventually opens up Iran's market to other foreign investments; like my brokerage account, then at least we can walk away with that. That is most certainly NOT NOTHING no matter how bad critics wish it to be so.
We got less than 12 hours to see what happens. And regarding everyone's criticism on the money made playing around with energy options, not a single person here was banned from doing the same. Any member here , and some did, could have made the exact same trades and some did make the same trades and regular people made money too.
We can be grown up infantile cry babies about the reality of the world when it comes to market trading, or just play by the same rules and reap what we can with our own resources. Its not like I got millions of dollars sitting around to multiply on oil market volatility. However, playing the VIX and using options is something a regular 9-5 laborer can also do. It is not limited to millionaires and billionaires. So either get over yourself, grow up and ride the gravy train while you can, or just go back to sitting on the sidelines and watch the world happen. It really is your life and your choice, live it how you want to.
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(7 hours ago)worldstarcountry Wrote: Yes, I agree, it was a very stupid war. However, if it generates interest through a $300 billion dollar development fund (not free money from the tax payer), and eventually opens up Iran's market to other foreign investments; like my brokerage account, then at least we can walk away with that. That is most certainly NOT NOTHING no matter how bad critics wish it to be so.
We got less than 12 hours to see what happens. And regarding everyone's criticism on the money made playing around with energy options, not a single person here was banned from doing the same. Any member here , and some did, could have made the exact same trades and some did make the same trades and regular people made money too.
We can be grown up infantile cry babies about the reality of the world when it comes to market trading, or just play by the same rules and reap what we can with our own resources. Its not like I got millions of dollars sitting around to multiply on oil market volatility. However, playing the VIX and using options is something a regular 9-5 laborer can also do. It is not limited to millionaires and billionaires. So either get over yourself, grow up and ride the gravy train while you can, or just go back to sitting on the sidelines and watch the world happen. It really is your life and your choice, live it how you want to.
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The war wasn't necessary.
The JCPOA was already in place and was less onerous than the current agreement terms, and it was agreed without warfare, by diplomacy.
Trumb withdrew from the JCPOA in 2019.
It's a bit much to expect one side to continue to abide by the terms of an agreement from which the other has broken faith.
WTF do you think he thought was likely to happen? The moron.
Art of the deal? More like brain-fart of the heel!
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(7 hours ago)chr0naut Wrote: The war wasn't necessary.
Trumb withdrew from the JCPOA in 2019. Yes, indeed you have vocalized this point many times, as have others. I also have taken note. Pobody's nerfect.
And then... ?
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Trump tried claiming the conditional 14 point plan was an 'unconditional surrender' from Iran and that he 'knows there are limits to (Trumps) power but there are no limits to (Trumps) power and Israel are still bombining Lebannon so peace talks have been cancelled.
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Trumps administration continues attacking allies while appeasing enemies.
This time with JD Vance going after Israel for not loving the Iran deal.
Quote:Vice President JD Vance ripped Israeli officials who have criticized President Trump over the US-Iran memorandum of understanding, blasting them for complaining about the document that requires them to stop striking Hezbollah in Lebanon.
Vance told reporters in the White House briefing room Thursday that Israeli cabinet members had, in some cases, “very personally attacked the president of the United States.”
“If I was in the cabinet of the Israeli government, I might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I have anywhere left in the entire world,” he added, pointedly.
“Donald J. Trump is the only head of state in the entire world who is sympathetic to the nation of Israel at this moment in time, and he happens to be the head of state of the world’s superpower.”
“Over the last three months, two-thirds of the defensive weapons that have protected your homeland have been built by American hands and paid for by American tax dollars,” Vance went on.
“The problem for Israel is not Donald J. Trump, and anybody in Israel who thinks their biggest problem is the president of the United States needs to wake up and smell the reality of the situation that country is in.”
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Trump’s signing the truce with Iran on Wednesday evening ignited a political firestorm in Israel, with some commentators branding it “a catastrophic capitulation” and “a betrayal” of Israeli security interests by Washington.
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Killing 4 IDF in one attack is pretty much guaranteed to get a (possible over) reaction.................
Liberman, Smotrich demand strikes on Beirut after four IDF soldiers killed by Hezbollah drones.......... https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defens...cle-899930
"When you are here for the good of the planet and humanity, the other levels are always trying to protect you in times of danger."
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(7 hours ago)chr0naut Wrote: The war wasn't necessary.
The JCPOA was already in place and was less onerous than the current agreement terms, and it was agreed without warfare, by diplomacy.
Trumb withdrew from the JCPOA in 2019.
It's a bit much to expect one side to continue to abide by the terms of an agreement from which the other has broken faith.
WTF do you think he thought was likely to happen? The moron.
Art of the deal? More like brain-fart of the heel!
Read Closely: see how Iran played ALL the JCPOA "Members" like a symphony Stradivarius starting in 2019.
Why did ALL the other Countries FAIL? 
China
France
Germany
Iran (withdrawn in 2025)
Russia
United Kingdom
United States (withdrawn in 2018)
European Union
Iran nuclear deal
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(6 hours ago)bastion Wrote: Trump tried claiming the conditional 14 point plan was an 'unconditional surrender' from Iran and that he 'knows there are limits to (Trumps) power but there are no limits to (Trumps) power and Israel are still bombining Lebannon so peace talks have been cancelled.
MSM Forever!!
Think "Strategy" and "Reverse" psychology brain infiltration
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(2 hours ago)Orby Wrote: Killing 4 IDF in one attack is pretty much guaranteed to get a (possible over) reaction.................
Liberman, Smotrich demand strikes on Beirut after four IDF soldiers killed by Hezbollah drones.......... https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defens...cle-899930
quotes for the poor... (Israel Time Zone)
Quote:By JERUSALEM POST STAFF
JUNE 19, 2026 11:01
Updated: JUNE 19, 2026 15:12
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu instructed the IDF to strike at Hezbollah "with full force" in response to four IDF soldiers being killed by Hezbollah on Friday.
"My directive is clear: Israel will not tolerate attacks on our soldiers or our territory, and it will exact a very heavy price from Hezbollah for these attacks," Netanyahu wrote in a post on X/Twitter. "The IDF will act to thwart any threat to our forces and our territory."
He also stated that IDF troops would remain in the security zone in Lebanon "for as long as required to protect the settlements in the north."
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