Trump says he bombed Iran

[Orby]

Considering that inflation has a far more significant impact on the people of said country that the government itself, I think it is safe to assume that you want the people of Iran to suffer.
Why?

Not at all. What happens over there is merely the equivalent of a foottball game to me. Makes no real difference to my life. Just like most proxy wars. Do you understand that there are many ways to Iraqify a nation. Not bringing it down. Just leaving it in a process of chaos. You don't just bomb the kak out of them. You destroy their economy and way of life. Leaving the natives in chaos. Which is how the Soviets were brought down. You do understand that?

[Oldcarpy2]

Not at all. What happens over there is merely the equivalent of a foottball game to me. Makes no real difference to my life. Just like most proxy wars. Do you understand that there are many ways to Iraqify a nation. Not bringing it down. Just leaving it in a process of chaos. You don't just bomb the kak out of them. You destroy their economy and way of life. Leaving the natives in chaos. Which is how the Soviets were brought down. You do understand that?

Help is on it's way to those poor protesters?

No.  Just more misery.

Well done.

[Orby]

Help is on it's way to those poor protesters?

No.  Just more misery.

Well done.

You take down a threat by manipulating the economy, get the natives out in force and watch the chaos unfold. Why would the enemies of Iran want a peaceful resolution to the half century face off? It makes no sense.

[DennisR6]

Not at all. What happens over there is merely the equivalent of a foottball game to me. Makes no real difference to my life. Just like most proxy wars. Do you understand that there are many ways to Iraqify a nation. Not bringing it down. Just leaving it in a process of chaos. You don't just bomb the kak out of them. You destroy their economy and way of life. Leaving the natives in chaos. Which is how the Soviets were brought down. You do understand that?

I don't think that Iraqifing any nation is a wise thing to do. How well has that worked out Orby?
Not swimmingly in any way that comes to mind.
I made a list of nations and you pick one that you like and we can figure out together how better off they are now since a little freedom was spread!
Here is your list.
Libya
Iraq
Afghanistan
Syria
Yemen
Laos and Cambodia
Anyone please feel free to add to this list.

[Orby]

I don't think that Iraqifing any nation is a wise thing to do. How well has that worked out Orby?
Not swimmingly in any way that comes to mind.
I made a list of nations and you pick one that you like and we can figure out together how better off they are now since a little freedom was spread!
Here is your list.
Libya
Iraq
Afghanistan
Syria
Yemen
Laos and Cambodia
Anyone please feel free to add to this list.

You got to divide and rule Dennis. That's how we did it anyway in our last imperial endeavour. Yanks and Israeli's just carry on that today. I see your list and I can acknowledge job well done   as I can't see any of the nations being a threat anymore. A proper threat that is 

[Oldcarpy2]

You take down a threat by manipulating the economy, get the natives out in force and watch the chaos unfold. Why would the enemies of Iran want a peaceful resolution to the half century face off? It makes no sense.

The 'natives" are not armed.  The Regime is.

Did you not notice?

Or that "Regime change' has been quietly ditched?

[Orby]

The 'natives" are not armed.  The Regime is.

Did you not notice?

Or that "Regime change' has been quietly ditched?

It's a war. With the intention of making Iran weakened to the point of being no real threat to Israel, or the Arab in the region. At least that's what the West sells to the Arabs. Big Bogeyman Ayatollah wants to invade your lovely deserts so you better let us keep our bases in the region just in case it happens. Keeps the Yanks in the Gulf running the show and Israel safer than ever. Win win. Shame for the people of Iran, but the all imporatnt bases, Israel and the rulers of Arabian lands are far important to TPTB.

[DennisR6]

You got to divide and rule Dennis. That's how we did it anyway in our last imperial endeavour. Yanks and Israeli's just carry on that today. I see your list and I can acknowledge job well done   as I can't see any of the nations being a threat anymore. A proper threat that is 

Did Iran come and attack your homeland Orby?
Because every country breeds its own terrorists with each having what ever messed up agenda they have against whoever they may hate. Just because a country has that does not mean they are a direct threat. But attacking them has now made that so.
Now I will say that if a country is purposely using proxies to attack my country then hell yes I would be all in. But alas Iran has not done so. They have attacked through proxy numerous other nations. And many of those are our allies and to some extent we have given our word to protect them as they are allowing us to do business and conduct other operation from with their borders. I get it, I really do Orby.
But at some point those little fellas will have to defend and if needed go on the offense against any aggressor.
And I have said I have no problem with arms supplies(not bombing civs). That brings in serious money and more manufacturing here at home.
Now tell me how it is the United states job to do the bidding of other nations?

[Oldcarpy2]

It's a war. With the intention of making Iran weakened to the point of being no real threat to Israel, or the Arab in the region. At least that's what the West sells to the Arabs. Big Bogeyman Ayatollah wants to invade your lovely deserts so you better let us keep our bases in the region just in case it happens. Keeps the Yanks in the Gulf running the show and Israel safer than ever. Win win. Shame for the people of Iran, but the all imporatnt bases, Israel and the rulers of Arabian lands are far important to TPTB.

Yeah, so much winning.
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[Orby]

Did Iran come and attack your homeland Orby?
Because every country breeds its own terrorists with each having what ever messed up agenda they have against whoever they may hate. Just because a country has that does not mean they are a direct threat. But attacking them has now made that so.
Now I will say that if a country is purposely using proxies to attack my country then hell yes I would be all in. But alas Iran has not done so. They have attacked through proxy numerous other nations. And many of those are our allies and to some extent we have given our word to protect them as they are allowing us to do business and conduct other operation from with their borders. I get it, I really do Orby.
But at some point those little fellas will have to defend and if needed go on the offense against any aggressor.
And I have said I have no problem with arms supplies(not bombing civs). That brings in serious money and more manufacturing here at home.
Now tell me how it is the United states job to do the bidding of other nations?

Iran launched an attack on Israel 7/10 and from that point its fate was sealed. Totally inevitable that Israel was going to attack the nuclear sites plus kill off the leadership and scientists. They would have done it anyway, having done the same with Iraq, Syria. 

Now why is it the United States job to do the bidding of other nations? Well, you let roughly speaking half the worlds Jews move to your country. 7 million or so today. Equal to those in Israel. They influence your politics, economy and military. Probably more so than the numbers represent. When Trump sends in the foreign affairs team of Whitkopf and Kushner you are effectively seeing Israeli involvement. Be it with Russia, the Arabs or in this case the Iranians. The influence behind the scenes is too much for any President to go against. I have no idea what happens behind the scenes yet I've heard some pretty crazy things about how the influence works. No idea if it's right or wrong, good or bad, yet your foreign policy is, to whatever extent, influenced by this minority within the United States.