Yesterday, 07:38 PM
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Yesterday, 07:47 PM
(Yesterday, 07:38 PM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: Wait what? If they're surrendering then there's no need. ![]() Problem? Solved.
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Yesterday, 08:20 PM
(Yesterday, 07:47 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: If they're surrendering then there's no need. If Trumb was replaced by someone sane, the problem would also just simply go away.
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(Yesterday, 04:08 PM)DennisR6 Wrote: Enough to know this was a mistake before it started. There's been more dire situations than the Iranian issue in my lifetime... the Iranian hostage crisis was 444 days, you can't slow-play some situations I don't overreact to any politician's bullshit either, I don't hang on thier every word, either, especially a guy like Trump. Regardless, economic sanctions would have taken 30 times longer, and they were likely being bypassed to some to a large degree. And yeah, once America is at war, I tend to want the war to go well for Uncle Sammy. America has never gone to war in the Middle East with such a divided public at home. The saving grace was the Saudis being on board, as well as a few others A few times in this 500-page thread, ive mentioned I didnt agree with the war, but I understand why the Trump administration did it was strengthened in my mind after seeing Iran, Hezbollah, and the Houthis shoot missiles not at the US or Israel but indiscriminately at thier Gulf state arab nieghbors? WTH Once that happened, Iran needed to be slapped down a few notches, they can't be trusted in a civilized world if they had nukes, who knows "enough" to guarantee they won't use them. Then there is the killing of women protesting, getting whacked in the head by a rusty machete, and having it be state-sponsored mutilation. There's no place for that in the 21st century, yet the world is supposed to turn a blind eye and do business with the lunatic bastards. FTN and screw both China and Russia, for supporting and arming them. Barrack gave them 1.7 billion, and they armed themselves and financed Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, instead of maybe a couple of hundred million on the GP. Im still skeptical, but militarily, the war was a huge success. China's air defense systems were exposed. Last time I checked for all the missiles and drones from Iran and thier proxies hitting the actual target was incredibly low, like single-digit percentages. All Iran could do militarily is terrorize weaker countries. If we were more united domestically and had NATO been a little more demonstrative in thier support and not given Iran hope, it would have been over earlier. Thankfully, Iran chose to target thier nieghbors that was the turning point militarily. Now lets see if we can end it diplomatically. Politically, domestically, too many here hate on whatever Trump does or says because they don't like him, which clouds their judgment.... But None of that precludes him from having effectiveness in some areas where America has been weak, AH recently The Americas never had this kind of Arab support in a Middle East war, which leaves America in better shape for the next Middle East crisis Quote:Key Arab States Supporting the US Side United Arab Emirates (UAE): Strongest and most hawkish supporter. Reportedly conducted dozens of strikes on Iran (coordinated with US/Israel), pushed for continued US military action or even a ground invasion, hosted Israeli ties, and cracked down on Iranian-linked entities. It has faced heavy Iranian retaliation but aligned closely with the US. When was the last time Israel helped an Arab state this demonstratively during war ? Quote:Did Israel help an arab state with air defense systems
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Yesterday, 08:31 PM
(Yesterday, 08:24 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: That only means you guys Trump butt hurt would go away. I know, right ![]() Even he knows that's ludicrous
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Yesterday, 08:33 PM
(Yesterday, 08:31 PM)putnam6 Wrote: I know, right It's like I said the other night, nobody can be objective when they are constantly clutching their ass from Trump butt hurt. These guys are weak and fragile.
Yesterday, 08:40 PM
(Yesterday, 08:24 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: That only means you guys Trump butt hurt would go away. Trumb has done things that affect other people in other countries. He is one of the world's problems.
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Yesterday, 08:54 PM
(Yesterday, 08:33 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: It's like I said the other night, nobody can be objective when they are constantly clutching their ass from Trump butt hurt. Comes down to that, if you believe how close Iran was to getting a functioning nuclear warhead to attach to their missiles. This administration believed they were close enough that they risked American lives and the midterms and 2028. They had a high degree of certainty and genuinely believed you cant let unstable nations have nukes.
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