Trump says he bombed Iran

[putnam6]

Just a mere anecdote I know, but there are good and bad folks in all walks of life...

Didnt say suggest, or infer otherwise.

We are talking about countries and their leaders spouting Death to America daily, well aware that individuals are sometimes different.

Impose would be the subtle difference, now imagine your family as is living next to a Mosque in Iran

Are you going to be able to smoke a pork shoulder and invite them for a BBQ?

[andy06shake]

Didnt say suggest, or infer otherwise.

We are talking about countries and their leaders spouting Death to America daily, well aware that individuals are sometimes different.

Impose would be the subtle difference, now imagine your family as is living next to a Mosque in Iran

Are you going to be able to smoke a pork shoulder and invite them for a BBQ?

Not so sure about the pork part, but if they were Jewish i would be in the same boat. 

I do, however, accept food from them all the time.

I lent the little fella(an old Iraqi guard captain who came here after Gulf War 1) my shears, and his Mrs brings me plates of Samosas and Onion Bhaji. 

Put it this way, i used to stand and drink in the local pub with a Muslim postman.

And they are not supposed to consume alcohol, so...

As to spouting Death to America daily, what is it they say about sticks and stones? 

Again, there are arseholes in all walks of life.

But you can't tar an entire religion or group of people with the same brush...

Not saying that what you're doing, but a lot of people do exactly that.

Mainly down to simply not knowing any Muslims, bar what they see on TV or social media.

[CriticalStinker]

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There's just no middle ground with the left, thats where the independents and moderates live,

The only ammo the left has is that they aren't Trump.

If it were so desperate, why are the midterms and 2028 still in question?

Democrats are blind to the middle, the moderates, the independents, whose lives are immersed in politics

The left and right are both blind to the moderates.

Its so obvious that the results of Trump are not much different than Biden, Obama and Bush… yet even still anyone critical of this administrations policy are met with accusations they must be part of the left.

I voted for Trump the first round because he promised to be everything those presidents weren’t. His campaign was to change things and reduce debt.

Now people just justify his actions by saying former presidents did it too. Fine, he’s one of them. That’s what I’m saying.

The moderates and independents are tired of partisans acting like they’re different. The results are the same.

[Oldcarpy2]

The left and right are both blind to the moderates.

Its so obvious that the results of Trump are not much different than Biden, Obama and Bush… yet even still anyone critical of this administrations policy are met with accusations they must be part of the left.

I voted for Trump the first round because he promised to be everything those presidents weren’t. His campaign was to change things and reduce debt.

Now people just justify his actions by saying former presidents did it too. Fine, he’s one of them. That’s what I’m saying.

The moderates and independents are tired of partisans acting like they’re different. The results are the same.

That is the problem with US politics, it's just so polarized and divisive.

No room for moderates.

[CriticalStinker]

That is the problem with US politics, it's just so polarized and divisive.

No room for moderates.

They both exist for the donor class.

Trump is populist right and promised to help the everyday American, and the democrats have long championed themselves as “the working man’s” party. Truth be told, they’re subservient to the same group of donor class.

This is evident by the economy slowly deteriorating for decades, yet the one metric of the economy that continues to improve is the stock market. The rich get richer even when we go to war or inflation goes up. They’ll report record quarter earnings even when normal people struggle, and that’s as true under Biden as it is under Trump.

It’s all theater to pretend Americans have two choices. Just two choices when we are one of the most populous countries on earth.

They do differ on some wedge issues, but very few. And most of those issues don’t really matter as much as the economy sans immigration, where I will give credit to Trump closing the border.

[putnam6]

Not so sure about the pork part, but if they were Jewish i would be in the same boat. 

I do, however, accept food from them all the time.

I lent the little fella(an old Iraqi guard captain who came here after Gulf War 1) my shears, and his Mrs brings me plates of Samosas and Onion Bhaji. 

Put it this way, i used to stand and drink in the local pub with a Muslim postman.

And they are not supposed to consume alcohol, so...

As to spouting Death to America daily, what is it they say about sticks and stones? 

Again, there are arseholes in all walks of life.

But you can't tar an entire religion or group of people with the same brush...

Not saying that what you're doing, but a lot of people do exactly that.

Mainly down to simply not knowing any Muslims, bar what they see on TV or social media.

You talk as if Im unaware of individual people.

Where has muslim culture been destroyed? Do you remember ISIS blowing up ancient relics?

Do you know how many mosques are in the US?

Now, how many Christian churches are in Iran?

You pretend the Ayatollah wouldnt throw your butt in jail for smoking a Boston Butt next to a mosque.

This is about the war and why the world can't let the Muslim extremist-led Iran control the Strait, have nuclear weapons, and be able to pretend whacking women in the head with a rusty machete is normal, neighborly 21st-century enlightened behavior.

Ask the guy in Belfast about his neighborly muslims....

Speaking of cultures and being destroyed, what happened to the Persian culture previous to the Muslim arrival?

[RazorV66]

Ask the guy in Belfast about his neighborly muslims....

I thought I saw that the attacker was from Sudan, not sure if there are Muslims there and don't really care.

He was just another cockroach that preyed on a vulnerable victim due to the open immigration policies of the weak and feckless government over there.

[CriticalStinker]

This is about the war and why the world can't let the Muslim extremist-led Iran control the Strait, have nuclear weapons, and be able to pretend whacking women in the head with a rusty machete is normal, neighborly 21st-century enlightened behavior.

I thought we set back their nuclear program ten years last summer.

Also, they didn’t have control of the strait before March. I believe Trump and many of his supporters said it would be open in a couple weeks… yet here we are.

Every president since Bush has won on saying less wars in the Middle East, not more. And they were all liars.

Here we are, in a situation that will only cost us. The only way we “win” is to open the strait that was already open, and prevent a country who had no nukes from having no nukes.

Very reminiscent of us replacing the Taliban with the Taliban, Saddam with a failed state, and bombing the Houthis for years only for them still to be there. You can’t kill ideas, you can only fight them till someone gives up, and most Americans don’t care about a region that doesn’t effect us.

[Oldcarpy2]

I thought I saw that the attacker was from Sudan, not sure if there are Muslims there and don't really care.

He was just another cockroach that preyed on a vulnerable victim due to the open immigration policies of the weak and feckless government over there.

Well, masked thugs have been going house to house burning out brown folk.

Cockroaches, those thugs, but I dare say you're fine with that.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Speaking of cultures and being destroyed, what happened to the Persian culture previous to the Muslim arrival?

Which ones, Archaemenid or Sassanian? 

The Archaemenid Empire was conquered by Alexander The Great in 330 BCE. 

So then the former Persian empire fell to become the Hellenistic, Ptolemaic, and Seleucid empires until 164 BCE when The Maccabean Revolt (Jews) took back Jerusalem. 

The Hasmonean Dynasty (AKA: Judea) ruled until Rome and Herod annexed it in 40 BCE declaring himself King of Jews. Took total control 3 years later.  

Then Herod dies and his heirs were stripped of their control which was returned Judea to direct Rome rule around 6 CE. 

And then everything from Jesus' rise in Judea, a state execution, the destruction of the second temple, the Romans becoming Byzantine and Christian, The Zoroastrian Sassanian Persians resurgence, the Byzantine fighting back but failing, before finally the first Muslims arrived.  And Mohammed > Zoroaster. But it took them as long as it took Rome to become Christian to fully convert to Islam. 

And then finally we get to centuries of righteous holy crusades with Jerusalem changing hands 11 times (but staying mostly Muslim) before it became Israel in 1948..