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Okay, lets try this then. Because I am to the most irritated part of being stuck at home in peri-hell now. And I am done feeling like im being overbearing for no good reason. 

WHY i was offended by your consistent argument against Israel and took it as lost decorum and political baiting approaching antisemitism. 

My reason paraphrased by AI: 
 
Quote:Claims that Israel manipulates governments to take over the world are rooted in century-old antisemitic conspiracy theories. These narratives echo the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion"—an early 20th-century forgery designed to falsely claim Jewish people were plotting global domination.

The specific Mantra you referenced relies on these established historical frameworks:

Puppet Masters and "Craftiness": The stereotype of Jewish people as inherently "shady" or cunning originates from medieval tropes that cast Jews as malicious schemers working in the shadows to control institutions, finances, and global events.

The "Zionist Occupation Government" (ZOG): White supremacist groups actively promote the conspiracy theory that Jewish people ("Zionists") secretly control Western governments. White supremacists utilize these claims to scapegoat minorities, claiming national policies are manipulated by a foreign cabal to the detriment of white citizens. 

Rebranding Anti-Jewish Hate: The modern accusation that Israel controls the government to its own will is often an updated, localized evolution of this long-standing trope. It takes the conspiracy out of the realm of secret global cabals and applies it directly to state actions. 

Targeting Society at Large: By asserting that a Jewish state single-handedly directs Western democracies, conspiracy theorists erase the agency of sovereign nations and their citizens, substituting legitimate political critique with racist scapegoating.

What can i say?

I bought into the #StandUpToJewishHate campaign, and was irked enough to qualify your persistent opinion as another variation of THE SAME OLD ANTISEMITISM TROPE. 

I went rogue, but that is why.
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(06-07-2026, 01:01 AM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Okay, lets try this then. Because I am to the most irritated part of being stuck at home in peri-hell now. And I am done feeling like im being overbearing for no good reason. 

WHY i was offended by your consistent argument against Israel and took it as lost decorum and political baiting approaching antisemitism. 

My reason paraphrased by AI: 
 

What can i say?

I bought into the #StandUpToJewishHate campaign, and was irked enough to qualify your persistent opinion as another variation of THE SAME OLD ANTISEMITISM TROPE. 

I went rogue, but that is why.


Except I've never referenced any of that
I haven't said anything about Israel taking over the world

I've posted specifically about Israel's relationship with the US government concerning the war with Iran, the Epstein files and the ousting of Thomas Massie and now the bill to merge militaries, Intel & AI and the new controversy over Israel spying on Trump's administration and US soldiers

Issues you're choosing to ignore in order to paint me an antisemite which should hopefully shut me up

Mission accomplished as far as DI is concerned 
You all can remain in your little bubble, here
(06-07-2026, 01:39 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Except I've never referenced any of that
I haven't said anything about Israel taking over the world

I've posted specifically about Israel's relationship with the US government concerning the war with Iran, the Epstein files and the ousting of Thomas Massie and now the bill to merge militaries, Intel & AI and the new controversy over Israel spying on Trump's administration and US soldiers

Issues you're choosing to ignore in order to paint me an antisemite which should hopefully shut me up

Mission accomplished as far as DI is concerned 
You all can remain in your little bubble, here

You've definitely posted things that full of antisemitism tropes. 
 
Quote:(Bibi) wants complete control over our government and military 

They're not really hiding it, anymore 

We've got Israel First politicians openly vowing to oust every rep who refuses to bow to Israel and they have their wealthy Jewish donars who are invested in filling every spot with their puppets and shills

All the Israel First citizens are either cheering this on or pretending it's not happening.

So you really cant see the above quote REEKS OF the same old time-honored antisemitism trope?

Here is AI again...
Quote:Yes, this quote directly relates to several centuries-old antisemitic tropes. While it references modern political figures and contemporary debates surrounding Israel, the specific language and concepts used mirror classic anti-Jewish conspiracy theories regarding dual allegiance, hidden manipulation, and disproportionate control over global institutions.

The specific tropes present in the text include:

1. The Puppet Master and Secret Control Trope

• The Quote: "...wealthy Jewish donars who are invested in filling every spot with their puppets and shills"

• The Historical Connection: This directly invokes the "puppet master" myth, which posits that Jewish individuals or networks secretly manipulate governments, financial systems, and military forces from behind the scenes. This trope gained widespread infamy through the fabricated 1903 text The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and remains a staple of modern conspiracy theories. Using terms like "puppets" and "shills" to describe elected officials allegedly controlled by wealthy Jewish benefactors relies entirely on this historical imagery.

2. The Dual Loyalty / "Israel First" Trope

• The Quote: "...Israel First politicians openly vowing to oust every rep who refuses to bow to Israel..." and "...Israel First citizens..."

• The Historical Connection: The accusation of dual loyalty—or the claim that Jewish citizens are more loyal to a Jewish state, international networks, or a hidden agenda than to their own home countries—is a centuries-old prejudice. Historically, European Jews were frequently accused of being a "state within a state" and untrustworthy citizens. In modern discourse, framing political engagement or support for Israel as an absolute, subversive allegiance ("Israel First") that forces others to "bow" echoes these historical accusations of treasonous subversion.

3. The "Cabal" and Hidden Agenda Trope.

• The Quote: "(Bibi) wants complete control over our government and military. They're not really hiding it, anymore"

• The Historical Connection: The idea that a specific group is actively orchestrating a plot to seize "complete control over our government and military," paired with the phrase "they're not really hiding it anymore," relies on the concept of a conspiratorial cabal. Historically, antisemitic propaganda has frequently warned that Jewish people are on the verge of total world domination, shifting from a phase of "hidden secrecy" to overt control.
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(06-07-2026, 02:03 AM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: You've definitely posted things that full of antisemitism tropes. 
 

So you really cant see the above quote REEKS OF the same old time-honored antisemitism trope?

Here is AI again...

Yes, Bibi wants control of US government 

The bill was his idea

He doesn't have to lobby, anymore 

And yes, Jewish donors backed Massie's replacement 

It was the most expensive House primary in recent years

If I was making this stuff up, you could claim antisemitism 

But I'm not 

And you can ignore it if you want so you can conveniently blanket it all as Jew hate

It's your win here on DI

You can make this your protected space

Won't make a bit of difference in what's unfolding inbthe real world 

I already told you I'm done here

If you want to insist it's because I'm a Jew hater

Be my guest
I can't believe what I am reading. So its over then, I guess the echo chamber wins.



100 days of war now, with no real end in sight.

But don't worry.

Trump will have the biggest, bestest deal in place soon, and peace on the table within a couple of weeks. 

Absolute.

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"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(06-07-2026, 05:16 AM)andy06shake Wrote: [Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWNe2euKsdU]

100 days of war now, with no real end in sight.

But don't worry.

Trump will have the biggest, bestest deal in place soon, and peace on the table within a couple of weeks. 

Absolute.

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You do realize that in order to have peace (like Russia/Ukraine) both sides, ALL sides have to be in some form of agreement, correct?
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
(06-06-2026, 08:16 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Why such opposition of Israel?

Not Jews, Israel.

What are your opinions on our interest in the holyland in general?

This seems rather unrelated to the thread topic. Or are we all now agreed that Trump bombed Iran in Israel's interest?

We're making progress. Earlier in the thread, people were claiming that he did it for America. Good to see everyone accepting the truth at last.
(06-07-2026, 08:20 AM)DBCowboy Wrote: You do realize that in order to have peace (like Russia/Ukraine) both sides, ALL sides have to be in some form of agreement, correct?

I do indeed, and any sort of agreement where nuclear material is concerned, allegedly or otherwise, seems to be a major problem and off the table...

Thats a deal breaker right there, isn't it? 

Something else i realise is that it's kind of hard to negotiate with people when you kill their leaders.

And the better part of their command structure in one fell swoop.

Which granted was impressive, but some may argue overkill in the extreme. 

And keeping in mind the replacement is a younger version who is even more of a religious fundamentalist nutter.

If i slaughtered your father and the greater part of your extended family, would you make peace?

Keeping in mind who these people are...

You can't bomb for peace DB, it just does not work.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."



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