Trump says he bombed Iran

[DBCowboy]

Whats the story with your Colonel Sanders lookin KFC bunny avatar, making me hungry

My posts are finger licking good!

[IDELB2006]

Trump gives an update on Iran missile inventory. It seems Iran has been busy stockpiling weapons.

US President, Donald Trump, has claimed that Iran retains only about 21 to 22 per cent of its missile arsenal following months of military exchanges and regional tensions.
Speaking in an interview with NBC News on Friday, Trump said Iran still possesses some missiles and drones but its overall military capability has been significantly reduced.

“They still have capacity. They have some missiles, they have some drones. I would say, percentage-wise, maybe 21 or 22 per cent of their missiles,” Trump said.
 
The latest estimate is slightly higher than the 18 per cent figure Trump cited in May. The US leader has repeatedly maintained that Iran’s military infrastructure has suffered extensive damage.

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[cherokeetroy]

And look, you get your say, and I come away looking like I overstepped, given my own colorful posting history. So you win! 

But I'll be the obvious fucking hypocrite if you knock off the (still offensive to some) anti-Zionist, anti USA/Israel allience, Anti-American (by proxy) over-the-top counter posting? 

I think part of being a USA citizen is the right to having religious or ethical conviction influence your opinion in politics.  Like for those that were raised that Israel is vitally important to always exist and deserves unwaivering US support.  And if you are a product of such secular zionists (which exist), the "Ayatollah Apologetics" becomes offensive.

And I am sorry I called it that, and got offended, but maybe I got sick of seeing Iran's state media posted on a brick wall? 

But if you truly believe that, everything about the evil USA/Israel terror regime, I encourage you to create a conspiracy thread on Bibi and Trump's systematic world takeover.  

I am really pro-free speech, so I dont want to take ANYONE's words, but I am also a bias hypocrite sometimes, so my support of both the miltary and Israel couldnt take it anymore.

And I really do think the prospect of Israel drafting US citizens, or anyone losing free speech therein, or stars of David replacing stars and stripes, is as hyperbolic as elites feeding on the pineal glands of children.

All Trump can do is call resolutions unpatriotic and build a glamor arch.

Here's the thing about being genuinely pro-free speech...

There are plenty of views expressed, here that I don't agree with
but I don't think I've ever told anyone to shut up

The number of times I get told to shut up by both members and mods is illuminating 

At least you can admit it's your emotion fueled personal bias that's behind your resentment 

You win

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Here's the thing about being genuinely pro-free speech...

There are plenty of views expressed, here that I don't agree with
but I don't think I've ever told anyone to shut up

The number of times I get told to shut up by both members and mods is illuminating 

At least you can admit it's your emotion fueled personal bias that's behind your resentment 

You win

I dont think so. I let myself get offended on behalf of a war only 40% at most support, and then singled you out when I could just have easily gone after one of your opponents for the same reason.

Because they sure prompt you to post the "Iranian propaganda" by believing "Trump's propaganda."

Its a feedback loop though. 

I get official statements are really hard to trust.
I get Trump is an authoritative ass with too much power. 
I get this war is a lot of bullshit and they lie. 
i get he might be getting owned by an equal Iranian stubborness. 
I get the opinion he's a tyrant and world terrorist. 
I get how he might be the antichrist. 

And support every one of those viewpoints being said.

*But* if i am going to be totally honest, it feeds the natrative of the radicalized left when it goes full bore into Trump/Bibi neurosis and rapid fires all these talking points with almost no drawback or analysis whatsoever. 

Because when it starts siding with ANYTHING that counters Trump's America, even that of the Ayatollah's twitter feed, it feeds the notion the left is now radicalized to the point of vehemently supporting Iranian state media, and then speaks for all opposition by association.

[cherokeetroy]

I dont think so. I let myself get offended on behalf of only 26% of US opinion, and then singled you out when I could just have easily gone after one of your opponents for the same reason. Because they sure trigger you to post "Iranian propaganda" by believing "Trump's propaganda."

Its a feedback loop though. 

I get official statements are really hard to trust.
I get Trump is an authoritative ass with too much power. 
I get this war is a lot of bullshit.
i get he might be getting owned by an equal Iranian stubborness. 
I get the opinion he's a tyrant and world terrorist. 
I get how he might be the antichrist. 

And support every one of those viewpoints being said.

*But* if i am going to be totally honest, it feeds the natrative of the radicalized left when it goes full bore into Trump/Bibi neurosis and rapid fires all these talking points with almost no drawback or analysis whatsoever. 

Because when it starts siding with ANYTHING that counters Trump's America, even that of Motaja's twitter feed, it feeds the notion the left is now radicalized to the point of vehemently supporting Iranian state media. It  lacks a critical filter and is a likewise an emotional response that resonates and amplifies.

Ok, when I said 'you win' I meant you win

I'm not posting updates in this thread, anymore
You won't see anymore Ayatollah tweets
You should be happy 

And since the Iranian State Media issue seems to be a sticking point, I'll just say:
I didn't post it every day
I share a wide variety of sources, including conservative sources like Fox News
I can't actually remember the last time I shared an Iranian source
The posts I did share weren't anti-American by nature, it was mostly updates about the Strait or responses to Trump’s messages

This idea you have that I used those sources to intentionally trigger other members such as yourself is wrong

I hope this clears things up for you

[DBCowboy]

What are the facts, not opinions of this war?

What are the objective, not subjective facts?


Trump wants peace.  He'll do anything to get it.

Israel wants security.  After the 6-Day War of 1967, Israels position is pretty clear.

Iran wants chaos.  They lie, they obfuscate, they prevaricate. 

MY OPINION ONLY  I think we need to continue bombing Iran until they beg for peace.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Ok, when I said 'you win' I meant you win

I'm not posting updates in this thread, anymore
You won't see anymore Ayatollah tweets
You should be happy 

And since the Iranian State Media issue seems to be a sticking point, I'll just say:
I didn't post it every day
I share a wide variety of sources, including conservative sources like Fox News
I can't actually remember the last time I shared an Iranian source
The posts I did share weren't anti-American by nature, it was mostly updates about the Strait or responses to Trump’s messages

This idea you have that I used those sources to intentionally trigger other members such as yourself is wrong

I hope this clears things up for you

Actually, I will reset my fail here, and give you the floor if you want.

And not dance around the real issue anymore, and speak to what irritated me to begin with and led to me asking you to knock it off.

Why such opposition of Israel?

Not Jews, Israel.

Very specifically what about helping Israel
confront our mutual stategic enemy, increasing our military partnership, owning our investment in their security, or saying the religious part out loud do you oppose the most? 

They are a tiny blip of West surrounded by a Middle eastern sea and without us, they would be nothing. 

What about the US supporting a strategic foothold in Caliphateland is so egregious?

What are your opinions on our interest in the holyland in general?

[cherokeetroy]

Actually, I will reset my fail here, and give you the floor if you want.

And not dance around the real issue anymore, and speak to what irritated me to begin with and led to me asking you to knock it off.

Why such opposition of Israel?

Not Jews, Israel.

Very specifically what about helping Israel
confront our mutual stategic enemy, increasing our military partnership, owning our investment in their security, or saying the religious part out loud do you oppose the most? 

They are a tiny blip of West surrounded by a Middle eastern sea and without us, they would be nothing. 

What about the US supporting a strategic foothold in Caliphateland is so egregious?

What are your opinions on our interest in the holyland in general?

Thing is, I've already had the floor 

If you've read any of my posts, you'll know I've delved into mass, out of control corruption

In addition to the problem of corruption, we're contending with the rapid development of the AI surveillance system coupled with transition to a tokenized digital monetary system  

Then of course there's the whole unresolved Epstein debacle and the issue of blackmail entailed in that mess 

And now there's growing concern about Israel's influence, leverage and control over the US government  

So, I've already made the case 

Some people are paying attention  

Others are selectively ignoring  

But if you want to know what my biggest issue is 

It's that I can't point out, question, criticize, condemn or oppose anything connected to Isreal without being ostracized, labeled as "the enemy" or tagged as someone who needs to be corrected or dealt with  

As you have just proven to me 

As an American citizen who loves the idea of liberty and wants to keep the 1st Amendment alive 

The fact that Israel is totally hands off and above reproach --- even held in higher esteem than my own country --- sets off all kinds of alarm bells 



https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/206343...67426?s=20

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Depends on what you say and where.

Go to a college campus and say the exact same thing you say here and you'll be handed The Medal of Freedom. Israel is not above reproach anymore.  Even if it seems like it is. 

It is painfully too popular to call them the genocidal apartheid state we support and demand they stand trial for war crimes.

Trump supporters are actually a more recent vocal addition to make up for all the lost zionist democrats. 

Honestly, the criticism reminds me of the liberal version of what The Aryan Nation says. They say the same thing. Israel controls our government, money, and secretly calls our shots through powerful lobbies that put Israel first. 

And it wasnt any more true when they had it all entirely reversed too. 

Just run through how the country that supplies their military hardware, props them up as powerful regional adversaries, and totally relies on us, become the ones that controls things? 

The reality may be we have long used Israel as our allied foothold to oppose a militant Islam that calls us Great Satan. At least the past 50 years. Israel is as close to OUR puppet state as it gets in this regard. 

Why is Bibi > Trump?

Makes no sense. They have to lobby us to get propped up, and now they are more indebted to our will than ever.

What says Trump doesnt try to call their shots?

[cherokeetroy]

Depends on what you say and where.

Go to a college campus and say the exact same thing you say here and you'll be handed The Medal of Freedom. Israel is not above reproach anymore.  Even if it seems like it is. 

It is painfully too popular to call them the genocidal apartheid state we support and demand they stand trial for war crimes.

Trump supporters are actually a more recent vocal addition to make up for all the lost zionist democrats. 

Honestly, the criticism reminds me of the liberal version of what The Aryan Nation says. They say the same thing. Israel controls our government, money, and secretly calls our shots through powerful lobbies that put Israel first. 

And it wasnt any more true when they had it all entirely reversed too. 

Just run through how the country that supplies their military hardware, props them up as powerful regional adversaries, and totally relies on us, become the ones that controls things? 

The reality may be we have long used Israel as our allied foothold to oppose a militant Islam that calls us Great Satan. At least the past 50 years. Israel is as close to OUR puppet state as it gets in this regard. 

Why is Bibi > Trump?

Makes no sense. They have to lobby us to get propped up, and now they are more indebted to our will than ever.

What says Trump doesnt try to call their shots?

Like i said, there's a lot of active selective ignoring going on 

That's why i said earlier, I'm not interested in trying to change MAGA's mind 

I'm not interested in trying to change yours, either  

It's a waste of time 

I post for anyone who more or less agrees with my views and wants to stay informed  

I do see there are people who are deeply emotionally invested in Israel  

I don't understand it, but as an fellow American, I feel that it's your prerogative to freely choose to support Israel without having to explain yourself for it 

I wouldn't tell you to "knock it off" and I wouldn't insist that you convince me why you should have the right to defend Israel  

Just as it should be my right to freely oppose what I believe to be corrupt and Unconstitutional  

I wouldn't pick a foreign country to support then demand everyone agree with me and if you don't, it means you're a (insert country) hater or you must want everyone in that country dead 

So essentially, if there's not room on this forum for both our voices, I will simply remove mine