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(06-05-2026, 12:14 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: He wants complete control over our government and military
They're not really hiding it, anymore
We've got Israel First politicians openly vowing to oust every rep who refuses to bow to Israel and they have their wealthy Jewish donars who are invested in filling every spot with their puppets and shills
All the Israel First citizens are either cheering this on or pretending it's not happening
The answer is somewhere between their nonchalance and your hyperbole.
This IS unprecedented as far as an ally allience integration. The closest thing prior is "AUKUS," but even this far exceeds that level of integration.
But its purpose is to not enlist Americans into The IDF, send marines into Gaza, or give me a right to go to Tel Aviv without a passport, its so they can better take advantage of defense data and weapon supply chains, and facilitates collaborative development in areas like artificial intelligence, cyber warfare, and air defense—not the placement of American infantry into ground deployments.
What does Israel really get?
Quote:Military integration with the United States provides Israel with guaranteed qualitative military superiority over regional adversaries, a reliable logistics and resupply pipeline, and access to cutting-edge research in modern warfare technologies such as artificial intelligence and quantum defense.
So really, it just changes the dynamic from:
"We need more aid to help fend off all the militant Iran proxy shitbags that want us erased off Planet Earth,"
To:
"How's the resupply of our Iron dome missiles coming? We need more for the remaining militant shitbags that want us erased off Planet Earth".
Basically, the mutual benefit for the USA perspective is actually reversed from your fear . Our muscle, the military industrial base, makes Israel the USA proxy if you really think about it.
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(06-05-2026, 12:52 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: The answer is somewhere between their nonchalance and your hyperbole.
This IS unprecedented as far as an ally allience integration. The closest thing prior is "AUKUS," but even this far exceeds that level of integration.
But its purpose is to not enlist Americans into The IDF, send marines into Gaza, or give me a right to go to Tel Aviv without a passport, its so they can better take advantage of defense data and weapon supply chains, and facilitates collaborative development in areas like artificial intelligence, cyber warfare, and air defense—not the placement of American infantry into ground deployments.
What does Israel really get?
So really, it just changes the dynamic from:
"We need more aid to help fend off all the militant Iran proxy shitbags that want us erased off Planet Earth,"
To:
"How's the resupply of our Iron dome missiles coming? We need more for the remaining militant shitbags that want us erased off Planet Earth".
Basically, the mutual benefit for the USA perspective is actually reversed from your fear . Our muscle, the military industrial base, makes Israel the USA proxy if you really think about it.
It's only hyperbole if you're not paying attention to everything that's currently unfolding
It's not fear
It's matter of fact statements
This is where we are
If things don't turn around, I may be banned from making these types of statements a year from now
https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/206287...14193?s=20
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(06-05-2026, 12:14 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: He wants complete control over our government and military
They're not really hiding it, anymore
We've got Israel First politicians openly vowing to oust every rep who refuses to bow to Israel and they have their wealthy Jewish donars who are invested in filling every spot with their puppets and shills
All the Israel First citizens are either cheering this on or pretending it's not happening
Well if Israel wants to draft U.S. Citizens into their military, we should be demanding Dual Citizenship!!!
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What a prize cockwomble.
Can't even be bothered to finish his dinner now...
Trump's board.
Whilst the oil and energy companies experience record profits, ka-ching, ka-ching, all the way to the bank.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(06-05-2026, 11:23 AM)govshill2 Wrote: ""And Jared's 'give away the Temple Mount', Jerusalem peace plan, which Dummie Trumb took credit for, has also been a fail.""
In your opinion and expertise, what would be better, and why/how ?

Here's a few ideas...
Official acknowledgement of the Temple Mount as a significant historical and multi-religious site that is owned by all people (a world heritage site).
Formulation of a Temple Mount Charter to guide use of the site, the charter to include:
* A management board with 3 representatives from the 3 Abrahamic faiths, one from the UN, and 3 from Jerusalem city management (with civil engineering degrees).
* Works funding from government grants and by voluntary donations.
* Peaceful co-management of common ground areas by the board.
* Unlimited public access to the Temple Mount common areas.
* Allowance of strictly controlled, small, limited-time archaeological projects (with proviso that all sites must be fully restored and publicly accessible afterward).
* Heritage restoration projects to remediate natural decay and repair previous damage to common infrastructure.
* Disallowance of new construction and building expansion that is not in keeping with the historical and shared nature of the site without unanimous assent.
* A small non-military security patrol under the authority of the board and Jerusalem police.
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(06-05-2026, 01:21 PM)govshill2 Wrote: Well if Israel wants to draft U.S. Citizens into their military, we should be demanding Dual Citizenship!!!

Hey, you never answered my question about America's Sovereignty!
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Trumps doesn't need a deal to take the uranium. He has obliterated it again.
Quote:US President Donald Trump on Thursday said that Washington did not need a deal with Iran to get enriched uranium from the country.
"We could get it right now. I don't think they could stop us if we wanted, but there's no reason to. It's entombed," he told reporters in the Oval Office.
And he's playing hard to get with Iran's supreme leader.
Quote:Trump also said that he did not want to meet with Iran's Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei.
But he added that if Washington and Tehran reached a deal, the two might meet, and said, "If it happened ... I'd be respectful."
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This regimes propaganda reminds me Of when Kim Jong-un found a unicorn lair.
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(06-05-2026, 04:03 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Hey, you never answered my question about America's Sovereignty!

which non sequitur was that again?
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It looks like Lebanon may be serious about getting rid of Hezbollah. Even if it is mostly to prevent Israel from continuing to invade.
Quote:Since its founding in the 1980s, Hezbollah has gone to war with Israel multiple times. This year, the group fired rockets at Israel in retaliation for a joint US-Israeli assault on Iran that killed Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and much of his senior military command. Israel’s aggressive response has killed more than 3,500 Lebanese and displaced nearly a fifth of the population.
Weakened by decades of foreign meddling, sectarian strife and its repeated entanglement in wider wars, the Lebanese state had pledged to tackle the daunting task of disarming Hezbollah in an effort to dismantle the group’s immense influence and halt Israel’s advancement.
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Might be starting .............. a few minutes ago
U.S. Central Command ![[Image: rocket.gif]](https://denyignorance.com//images/addsmilies/rocket.gif)
Quote:U.S. Central Command 6:48 PM EST · Jun 5, 2026
@CENTCOM
Moments ago, CENTCOM forces shot down four Iranian one-way attack drones that were launched toward the Strait of Hormuz. The attack drones posed an immediate threat to regional maritime traffic. U.S. forces subsequently struck Iranian coastal surveillance radar sites in Goruk and on Qeshm Island to defend against further attacks.
American forces remain vigilant and postured to respond to unjustified Iranian aggression in self-defense.
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