Trump says he bombed Iran

[DBCowboy]

Thanks for taking so long to come to our aid, which we then had to pay a fortune in Lend Lease.

Cheers for that.

You didn't ask nicely and was probably very rude.

[Oldcarpy2]

You didn't ask nicely and was probably very rude.

Sorry, I can no longer take you seriously.

Goodnight, and may your God, go with you.

[BeyondKnowledge]

Kind of like a jihad, that Iran and ISIS, and etc etc etc have had for 1600 years?

Exactly. And one national government in particular has been going after the big saten and little saten openly for 47 years now.

[putnam6]

2% interest on a 55-year loan on purchases that were at 90% off the actual cost.

The actual cost to American manufacturers and ultimately American taxpayers was easily 4 to 5 times the £1.075 billion.

In other words, my generation's grand parents' etc paid through the nose or the Brits would be eating weinerschnizel and reading Der Spiegel.

By the time the last payment was received, the original 600 million American dollars loan could barely buy a decent American football stadium

Britain made its final payment on the post-WWII Lend-Lease-related debt to the US on December 29, 2006.

en.wikipedia.org

Key ContextLend-Lease (authorized in March 1941) provided massive US aid to Britain and other allies, mostly as grants rather than loans. The program officially ended in September 1945 after Japan's surrender. Much of the wartime aid was not repaid in cash, as the intent was mutual support rather than strict financial repayment.

history.state.gov

However, supplies already delivered or in transit after the cutoff were not covered as free aid under the original act. These were sold to Britain at a steep discount (often around 10% of value, or 90% off). To finance this and address Britain's postwar economic crisis, the US provided a long-term loan as part of the 1946 Anglo-American loan agreement (along with a separate Canadian loan).

en.wikipedia.org

The Lend-Lease portion of this debt started at about £1.075 billion.
Repayment terms: 50 annual installments at 2% interest, beginning in 1951, with provisions for deferrals.
Britain made several deferrals (e.g., in 1956, 1957, etc.) due to economic pressures.

en.wikipedia.org

The final payment was $83.3 million (about £42.5 million at the time), made two days early on December 29, 2006 (the last working day of the year). This cleared the remaining WWII-related debt to both the US and Canada.

en.wikipedia.org

This is distinct from other postwar aid like the Marshall Plan, which was largely grants and not repaid. The Soviet Union made partial repayments much earlier but had most of its debt written off.

en.wikipedia.org

In short, while core wartime Lend-Lease was effectively grant aid, the financial obligations tied to retained postwar supplies were fully settled in late 2006.

[DBCowboy]

Exactly. And one national government in particular has been going after the big saten and little saten openly for 47 years now.

And are we to ignore them (Iran) like Poland, France and the UK ignored Germany?

Maybe we CAN learn from history.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

NK has threatened you with Nukes which they actually have.

What's the difference?

He sends Trump "love letters"?

They cant feed everyone or give them electricity? 

North Korea has nukes to occasionally threaten to use so everyone gives them money to go away until the next time he runs out of donuts? 

Those are all just guesses, wouldn't help you if they could...

[DBCowboy]

He sends Trump "love letters"?

They cant feed everyone or give them electricity? 

North Korea has nukes to occasionally threaten to use so everyone gives them money to go away until the next time he runs out of donuts? 

Those all just guesses, wouldn't help you if they could...

Well maybe NK can sell Iran a nuke with the money the next democrat president gives them and they can then blow everyone up.

[cherokeetroy]

We could be peaceful, but let me give one example.

Britain didn't want war, Poland didn't want war, France didn't want war, but Germany did.

Did the UK, France, Poland, hold the higher ground and were better?

Sure.

Until Germany invaded or bombed them.

And then, after getting invaded or bombed, they had to fight back.

Lesson is, if someone says they're going to do something, believe them.  So when Iran wants to glass the EU or make the UK/France the 13th Caliphate, believe them.

That's the thing about selling a religious war to a quasi-secular nation

If you come right out and say America is commanded to support Israel's desire to wipe out the Amalekites because of Biblical directive, you'd likely be met with strong opposition 

But if you can find a workaround by convincing everyone this war is a deterrent --- a defensive measure that’s imperative to save the entire planet --there's a twist that creates an entirely different argument --an urgent warning that will gain widespread acceptance 

It's all in the framing

[BeyondKnowledge]

Censored your reply to my Rabbi Rabbit reply to DB ?
Or the one where there are fewer than 20 million Jewish descendants vs 2 billion Muslims

Thats worth a whole other thread in itself.

Where did you get those numbers from? There are no full blooded biblical Israelites left. Only Jews as a religion and Israelies.

There is even a song about it.




Some of the priests of one of the twelve tribes were taken as slaves. All others were killed. That is all the other tribes and all that were not taken as slaves. All priests were men. What does that do to the blood line?

The Muslims have been fighting the ghost of an enemy all these years.

[DBCowboy]

That's the thing about selling a religious war to a quasi-secular nation

If you come right out and say America is commanded to support Israel's desire to wipe out the Amalekites because of Biblical directive, you'd likely be met with strong opposition 

But if you can find a workaround by convincing everyone this war is a deterrent --- a defensive measure that’s imperative to save the entire planet --there's a twist that creates an entirely different argument --an urgent warning that will gain widespread acceptance 

It's all in the framing

Why aren't you in Iran right now discussing peace?