Trump says he bombed Iran

[DennisR6]

1000% truth

Throw a dead cat around here and you are bound to hit an America hater.

I am not sure you or others have noticed but the constant use of ad hominem against others proves you and others have little to no actual responses to anything. You just go after your country man and allies. Yet you call others American haters?

Interesting 
carry on

[Astyanax]

I'd be curious to see what all the America haters see as a conclusive end to the conflict with Iran.

Damn good question. A useful exercise for everyone, not just for America haters.

For the US (not the US Presiden), I think the reopening of the Strait and reestablishment of a regime somewhat similar to the Joint Protocol, perhaps with longer timelines, would be acceptable. And I think this is what the US negotiating team will ultimately settle for.

As far as the rest of the world is concerned, a mere cessation of hostilities and a reopening of the Strait would largely suffice. Western countries, Japan,  Korea, etc, would probably want some guarantees over nuclear enrichment, too.

This would also be the Chinese position, an interesting example of how much more that great power is now in tune with the global vibe. India ditto. Not sure about either power's position on enrichment. 

I can't speak for the Israeli public. I know nothing of them. As far as their leader and his supporters are concerned, though, they're in far too deep to pull out. The only acceptable conclusion for them would be the total capitulation and disarmament of Iran. But without US support the only way they can achieve that is by going for the nuclear option. 

The Iranian people, we know, are torn. But they would unite, I think, to resist any foreign invader. The Iranian regime has made its own preferred outcome very clear.

Your turn now. Isn't Netanyahu's preferred conclusion yours, too?

[Astyanax]

I'm confused, now you're saying the US is Israels puppet as well as being China's puppet and Russia's puppet?

Pretty far-fetched, I agree.

But saying that Trump is putty in the hands of every political strongman he shakes hands with... not so far-fetched, hey?

[DBCowboy]

Damn good question. A useful exercise for everyone, not just for America haters.

For the US (not the US Presiden), I think the reopening of the Strait and reestablishment of a regime somewhat similar to the Joint Protocol, perhaps with longer timelines, would be acceptable. And I think this is what the US negotiating team will ultimately settle for.

As far as the rest of the world is concerned, a mere cessation of hostilities and a reopening of the Strait would largely suffice. Western countries, Japan,  Korea, etc, would probably want some guarantees over nuclear enrichment, too.

This would also be the Chinese position, an interesting example of how much more that great power is now in tune with the global vibe. India ditto. Not sure about either power's position on enrichment. 

I can't speak for the Israeli public. I know nothing of them. As far as their leader and his supporters are concerned, though, they're in far too deep to pull out. The only acceptable conclusion for them would be the total capitulation and disarmament of Iran. But without US support the only way they can achieve that is by going for the nuclear option. 

The Iranian people, we know, are torn. But they would unite, I think, to resist any foreign invader. The Iranian regime has made its own preferred outcome very clear.

Your turn now. Isn't Netanyahu's preferred conclusion yours, too?

Nice answer.

Like I've stated before, 

The US wants peace.
Israel wants security.
Iran wants to destroy the west.

If we can ensure Israel's security while negating Iran's regime of proxy wars for decades, then the US will have their peace and the Strait will be opened.

[DBCowboy]

Pretty far-fetched, I agree.

But saying that Trump is putty in the hands of every political strongman he shakes hands with... not so far-fetched, hey?

Nope.

Trump is just different from any politician we've seen in our lifetimes.

Categorizing Trump is putting a square peg in a round hole.

[cherokeetroy]

Not all people critical of Israel are nazis suckasses.

However, all nazi suckasses are critical of Israel.

Now how do we label the suckasses who absolutely refuse to question or criticize Israel-MAGA no matter what
And who viciously condemn and attack anyone who dares question or criticize Israel-MAGA?

[Oldcarpy2]

Nope.

Trump is just different from any politician we've seen in our lifetimes.

Categorizing Trump is putting a square peg in a round hole.

Well, we can certainly agree that he is "different"....

[putnam6]

I was replying to your previous post.

Censored your reply to my Rabbi Rabbit reply to DB ?
Or the one where there are fewer than 20 million Jewish descendants vs 2 billion Muslims

Thats worth a whole other thread in itself.

[Astyanax]

Like I've stated before...

Right, then. Bibi's option is your option, as expected. Thanks for confirming. 
 

Categorizing Trump is putting a square peg in a round hole.

Categorize? Putty isn't a category, it's a metaphor. And Trump's obliging deference to foreign dictators is uniquely his own, sui generis as some like to say. Albeit, unfortunately, to the shame of all America.

[DBCowboy]

Now how do we label the suckasses who absolutely refuse to question or criticize Israel-MAGA no matter what
And who viciously condemn and attack anyone who dares question or criticize Israel-MAGA?

Why would I question Israel or Trump when I think they are doing the right thiing?