Trump says he bombed Iran

[ReturnofBroccoli]

Saw a rumor somewhere earlier that UK is on standby for an OP in Hormuz now

[Toad of Toad Hall]

So President Trump declares peace (save the Iranians accepting the deal) and then … shoots at the Iranians?

[Astyanax]

OH OH!
Iran live updates: US forces conduct 'self-defense' strikes in Iran, CENTCOM says DAVID BRENNAN and MEREDITH DELISO Mon, May 25, 2026 at 6:18 

Trump trying to prove to Graham, Cruz and the hawks of MAGA that he's still a tough guy. Note CENTCOM'S use of the words 'self-defence' to pacify the Iranians and explain that the US doesn't really mean it, they're just humouring the moron-in-chief.

Strategically irrelevant. Just Trump's ego flailing, nothing more.

[chr0naut]

When The U.S. "withdrew" in 2018, why didn't the others enforce anything? Hmmmm
Original signatories:

 China
 France
 Germany
 Iran (withdrawn in 2025)
 Russia
 United Kingdom
 United States (withdrawn in 2018)
 European Union

All the other countries didn't illegally break their agreement. Only the USA did.

Also, when Trump initiated his illegal stupid war, and called for the other countries to join in, no one did (except Israel, who appear to be puppeteering Trump).

Trump tore-up the American involvement in the agreement in 2018, so, it's a bit weird that he was trying to reinstate the same thing in 2025 (and he failed), right?

2025–2026 Iran–United States negotiations

Then he spits the dummy that they wanted to negotiate - but he didn't.

'Cause you know how Trump "negotiates" don't you?

[andy06shake]

[Orby]

Well that's a fucking stupid statement.

Can't handel the truth? We've been bombing the natives since the year dot, they are by location trouble makers and will always cause trouble, they don't like it up 'em

[Orby]

That argument falls apart the second you stop treating 2 billion Muslims as one hive-mind.

"Bomb them until they behave" hasn't produced stability.

It's produced Iraq, Afghanistan, ISIS, mass civilian deaths, and radicalisation.

You're acting like flattening countries for decades has actually solved anything when it clearly hasn't.

Iraq became a disaster, Afghanistan lasted 20 years and ended with the Taliban back in charge, ISIS came out of the chaos, and Iran's nuclear programme kept advancing anyway.

"Bomb them until they behave" sounds tough but it's basically admitting diplomacy, intelligence and long-term planning all failed.

And calling millions of people "primitive tribal types" is just racist colonial language dressed up as strategy.

If bombing the crap out of the Middle East worked so well, the region wouldn't still be a complete mess.

Muslims are trouble. I will include the whole lot. Sunny, Cher and all those buggers in the Balkans whatever they are. Ask Lodon ho'ws it going with all them Albainas moving in. Teeming with trouble wherever they go. Give me a Rastafarian, a Red Indian, a Hindu, Jehovas Witness, they are all just about ok and I'm betting they won't be behind the next Manchester arena, Batacan, Bus bombing, beheading. It's always the muslims, yet you're too pc to see it. Toolate now anyway, we are done on this west of Europe.

[Orby]

They are currently at 60% of weapons grade and according to the US and Israeli threat assessments, they suggested that Iran could get from 60% to 90% in two weeks.

From my calculations that should mean at that rate they should be able to go from 0% to 100% in 6.6 weeks, and yet it has been years, just to get to 60%?

Hmmm.....

[Video: https://youtu.be/es3gwbhxz6w]

- Compare that to New York.


The people who had expertise to know, and who have been directly observing Iran's facilities, have published that they weren't trying to get nukes.

And we have heard the 'intelligence sources' tell us there were WMD's in Iraq, too, when there weren't.

How many times do you have to get lied to until the penny drops?


The USSR did grab a fair bit if territory, expanding its borders, after WWII, but some of those territories were directly fought over and liberated from the Nazi's, by the Commies.


You say it was better, but the USSR ended, without violence or war, by the will of its people. And yeah, that led to weakness to allow a dictator to assume office there...

I see similarities to that happening right now in the USA. You seem to assuming that the US are the good guys, but I'm seeing millions of homeless, poor and incarcerated there, with untouchable super-rich and powerful.

Are the US really the good guys?

You can argue from this angle and that with all the calculations you want, yet the idea that the Mullahs in Iran be allowed to develop nuclear anything is mental illness at its most basic. Them Koreans just threaten it but they are no ideological threat to our world, the Irans have their snouts in all formes of meddlig overseas and seek to Islamification the whole planet Earth. They destabilsed the whole ME and eastern Med through their foreign proxies wars. And yes I still prefer whatever you believe about America is better than dealing with Islamics. I'm guessing the next time my daughter gets gang raped (1/4 million Christian girl victimes perpetuated by Muslims in UK so far) or get blown up on a bus or train, or get my concert venue blown up to smithereens, or get a good old beheading, it will be carried out by a muslim rather a Yankee.

[andy06shake]

Muslims are trouble. I will include the whole lot. Sunny, Cher and all those buggers in the Balkans whatever they are. Ask Lodon ho'ws it going with all them Albainas moving in. Teeming with trouble wherever they go. Give me a Rastafarian, a Red Indian, a Hindu, Jehovas Witness, they are all just about ok and I'm betting they won't be behind the next Manchester arena, Batacan, Bus bombing, beheading. It's always the muslims, yet you're too pc to see it. Toolate now anyway, we are done on this west of Europe.

Orby, that's not pattern recognition.

It's just more lazy tribalism dressed up as insight.

You're talking about 2 billion people across dozens of countries and cultures.

Then blaming all of them for crimes committed by extremists.

By that logic, every white Brit gets blamed for football hooliganism, the UDA, or the IRA.

Absurd, don't you agree?

I live next to Muslims, went to school with Muslims, and frequent with them every time i take out the dogs or go to the shops.
 
They are ordinary people, working, raising families, and trying to survive like you and me.

Tarrying and the entire religion with the same brush is completely and utterly ludicrous.

How many do you even know, buddy, or interact with on a daily basis?

[andy06shake]

You can argue from this angle and that with all the calculations you want, yet the idea that the Mullahs in Iran be allowed to develop nuclear anything is mental illness at its most basic. Them Koreans just threaten it but they are no ideological threat to our world, the Irans have their snouts in all formes of meddlig overseas and seek to Islamification the whole planet Earth. They destabilsed the whole ME and eastern Med through their foreign proxies wars. And yes I still prefer whatever you believe about America is better than dealing with Islamics. I'm guessing the next time my daughter gets gang raped (1/4 million Christian girl victimes perpetuated by Muslims in UK so far) or get blown up on a bus or train, or get my concert venue blown up to smithereens, or get a good old beheading, it will be carried out by a muslim rather a Yankee.

The idea that humanity was allowed to develop nuclear weapons is a mental illness, so...

Tell me what makes us so special or responsible?

Additionally, who dropped two in anger?

Because it was not Iran.

If you can't recognise the hypocrisy in spades, i have to ponder why?

What happens when you tell people they can't have something Orby?