Trump says he bombed Iran

[Orby]

When have I ever suggested appeasement?

I must be jumping on your assumptions of genocie / total nonsense

[Orby]

I hardly think being compared to Stalin is much of a compliment.

Too true, an absolute legend who saved us all

[Oldcarpy2]

I am from the UK. Gone through DNA testing and effectively UK or the Hoogenoouts Dutch / Germany for 7,000 years. Proper British with a dose of NW Europe and Roman. When it comes to our country I know my stuff Bastion. I can't bear Nazi stuff, i just do believe our society is superior to the primitive ones found overseas. They couldn't even invent the wheel in many cases. I do believe we have given the world a superior civilising effect by the Empire. You don't see the natives running back to their mud huts and animal hides clothing shawls once they've had a good dose of semi detached housing, running water, leccy, and Primarks

Perhaps do some basic research into the history of the wheel?

You might be surprised.

[Orby]

Sounds like political fan fiction to me, Orby.

Trump doesn't get to "level up" his legacy by starting a war.

And history doesn't hand out greatness points for bombing countries.

Real-world military actions are messy, unpredictable, and usually ends up worse than whatever "clean victory" people imagine in their heads.
 
Also, Iran isn't some cartoon villain "main threat to civilisation", it's a country with internal politics, alliances, and constraints, not some silly last boss fight in Ibiza. 

Iran is the spawn of the devil Andy. It's been attacking te west for 40 years this way and that. Trump is sent from the heavens to sort them out, at least that's how I see it. He has done a wonderful job so far. When it comes to these backwoods societies you can only deal with them with a stiff stick and beat them into submission. Saddam was of a similar ilk, yet I don't believe he was a massive threat compared to Mullah. Yet by doing the same in somethink like 82, the IDF neutralised him as a future threat by destroying Osiraq nuke facility. Same with Assad's nuke site. They destroyed it and saved us all. This attack on Iran is just another chapter in TPTB eliminating nuke sites in the region. It's a whatever it takes approach, and if the Mullahs continue to hide the uranium then they will be beaten with the firm stick until they play ball like the previous operations. You might be blind to the fact, or even brainwashes by the lib lefty homo lesbo Corbyn cloned media, yet the idea of the Mullahs continuing with their progress to develop nuklear weapons is akin to a type of mental illness

[Orby]

Perhaps do some basic research into the history of the wheel?

You might be surprised.

Will do when i get the chance. Until then I'll stick to the ideas

[Orby]

The British Empire didn't collapse because of Soviet mind control.

It collapsed because of two world wars, which exhausted Britain financially and militarily.

Not to mention the millions of people who didn't want foreign powers ruling them from 1000s of miles away.

Oh yes the Soviets did brainwash em. We had a wonderful empire and the Soviets brainwashes the natives into self determination kak on the understanding they could govern the lands and economies themselves. They trained, funded all the independence movt's around the world. We'd still along with Portugal have our empire in Africa with the Soviets using their proxies to destroy our possessions. they were instrumental in bringing about the anto colonial progression in the late 20th C. If they stuck to their own, we might not have destroyed there Empire in USSR and eastern Europe. Two sides both destroyed the balance of power leading to both empires collapsing. Total insanity when we could have shared it all and let the status Quoo continue

[andy06shake]

Oh yes the Soviets did brainwash em. We had a wonderful empire and the Soviets brainwashes the natives into self determination kak on the understanding they could govern the lands and economies themselves. They trained, funded all the independence movt's around the world. We'd still along with Portugal have our empire in Africa with the Soviets using their proxies to destroy our possessions. they were instrumental in bringing about the anto colonial progression in the late 20th C. If they stuck to their own, we might not have destroyed there Empire in USSR and eastern Europe. Two sides both destroyed the balance of power leading to both empires collapsing. Total insanity when we could have shared it all and let the status Quoo continue

The Soviets definitely fuelled anti-colonial movements, armed groups, and spread revolutionary ideology.

But this idea that millions were simply "brainwashed natives" is far too simplistic.

People generally don't spend decades resisting empire, striking, rebelling, and dying for independence purely because Moscow told them to.

Britain was exhausted after two world wars, heavily in debt, and increasingly unable to hold or control her vast territories by force.

And calling the empire "wonderful" depends entirely on where you are standing.

Plenty benefited, but plenty also experienced repression, famine, exploitation and political exclusion.

Not to mention the subjugation and indentured servitude...

[Astyanax]

Seems we have an energetic new thread participant. How exciting.

Welcome, welcome. So, do you reckon America has all the bombs it needs to bomb all that stuff you listed?

[andy06shake]

Iran is the spawn of the devil Andy. It's been attacking te west for 40 years this way and that. Trump is sent from the heavens to sort them out, at least that's how I see it. He has done a wonderful job so far. When it comes to these backwoods societies you can only deal with them with a stiff stick and beat them into submission. Saddam was of a similar ilk, yet I don't believe he was a massive threat compared to Mullah. Yet by doing the same in somethink like 82, the IDF neutralised him as a future threat by destroying Osiraq nuke facility. Same with Assad's nuke site. They destroyed it and saved us all. This attack on Iran is just another chapter in TPTB eliminating nuke sites in the region. It's a whatever it takes approach, and if the Mullahs continue to hide the uranium then they will be beaten with the firm stick until they play ball like the previous operations. You might be blind to the fact, or even brainwashes by the lib lefty homo lesbo Corbyn cloned media, yet the idea of the Mullahs continuing with their progress to develop nuklear weapons is akin to a type of mental illness

Calling entire societies "spawn of the devil" or "backwoods" is propaganda-brain thinking, not serious analysis.

Iran's regime is authoritarian, funds proxies, and absolutely deserves criticism, but "beat them into submission" has been the logic behind half the Middle East disasters of the last 40 years.

Iraq was invaded over imaginary WMD paranoia that turned out to be false.

And it did nothing more than destabilise the region, and indirectly strengthened Iran.

Military strikes can delay nuclear programs, not magically erase knowledge or ideology, Orby.

Also, treating Trump like a heaven-sent saviour is cult logic dressed up as geopolitics.

Some might suggest thats also a form of mental illness...

[Oldcarpy2]

Speaking of mental illness...I would suggest that those cult members who can't see Trump's cognitive decline might be suffering from Trump Blindness Syndrome.

I'll shorten it to Trump BS.