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(05-06-2026, 08:10 PM)DennisR6 Wrote: I can say with a high degree of confidence that if Iran had nukes the US would not be first on that list. Just like if Israel had a viable nuke they would have used it by now. so with all that awesome knowledge in mind I can say from my perspective that I don't give a fuck what happens over there as long as commerce continues in a way that benefits me. Them all nuking themselves helps me in the long run.
That is a honest take. I do not in any way condone violence but if it has to happen then let it stay confined to that region and that region alone.
Israel has had nukes since the late 60s.
You really REALLY should give a fuck.
A nuke going off in the Middle East means it's going to get real ugly real fast.
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05-07-2026, 08:12 AM
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(05-07-2026, 07:40 AM)David64 Wrote: Israel has had nukes since the late 60s.
You really REALLY should give a fuck.
A nuke going off in the Middle East means it's going to get real ugly real fast.
Source?
Also. Care to explain why they have these supposed nukes trained on the U.S. and other Western cities?
ETA: I wouldn’t say it’s been all peaches and cream as we’ve tried to bomb them into democratic submission for 3/4 of my life. Meanwhile, here in the land of milk & honey, life hasn’t gotten sweeter from the constant campaigns against the theater of constant war that is the ME.
With or without thermonuclear activity.
So there’s that.
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Some Yanks might find this of interest.....
Professor Michael Clarke giving his weekly Q&A just broadcast on Sky
"When you are here for the good of the planet and humanity, the other levels are always trying to protect you in times of danger."
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(05-07-2026, 08:12 AM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: Source?
Also. Care to explain why they have these supposed nukes trained on the U.S. and other Western cities?
ETA: I wouldn’t say it’s been all peaches and cream as we’ve tried to bomb them into democratic submission for 3/4 of my life. Meanwhile, here in the land of milk & honey, life hasn’t gotten sweeter from the constant campaigns against the theater of constant war that is the ME.
With or without thermonuclear activity.
So there’s that.
Isreal has nukes aimed at the USA?
But you are asking for a source to verify that they have them?
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(05-07-2026, 08:26 AM)RazorV66 Wrote: Isreal has nukes aimed at the USA?
But you are asking for a source to verify that they have them?
Well. If you’re saying they do.
Im saying they are.
This is a conspiracy site, right?
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(05-07-2026, 08:12 AM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: Source?
Also. Care to explain why they have these supposed nukes trained on the U.S. and other Western cities?
ETA: I wouldn’t say it’s been all peaches and cream as we’ve tried to bomb them into democratic submission for 3/4 of my life. Meanwhile, here in the land of milk & honey, life hasn’t gotten sweeter from the constant campaigns against the theater of constant war that is the ME.
With or without thermonuclear activity.
So there’s that.
My source ? History.
Quote:France was the primary provider of nuclear technology to Israel, supplying the crucial nuclear reactor and reprocessing plant at Dimona in the late 1950s that enabled the development of a nuclear arsenal. Key technical assistance was also provided by other European countries, including Norway (heavy water) and the UK, while South Africa later provided uranium. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]- French Contribution (1950s-1960s): France agreed to build a nuclear reactor and a plutonium extraction plant near Dimona under a deal finalized in 1956-1957. Thousands of French workers and scientists helped build the facility.
- Other Sources: Norway supplied heavy water, and the UK reportedly supplied special materials without proper safeguards.
- U.S. Policy (1960s-1970s): While the U.S. did not directly build the program, intelligence reports showed Israel likely had bombs by 1968. President Nixon later struck an agreement with PM Golda Meir (1969/1970s) that essentially accepted Israel’s nuclear status, leading to a policy of "nuclear opacity".
- South Africa Cooperation: In the 1970s, Israel and South Africa maintained close ties, and South Africa provided uranium, though Israel already possessed the means to produce fuel. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8]
https://www.nti.org/countries/israel/
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/res.../cbp-9075/
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/17/world...apons.html
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/n...hat-glance
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(05-07-2026, 08:57 AM)David64 Wrote: My source ? History.
https://www.nti.org/countries/israel/
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/res.../cbp-9075/
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/17/world...apons.html
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/n...hat-glance
Thank you.
Now then. Why doesn’t Israel declare their nuclear program openly?
Is it because they would be subjected to the same rigors as the countries that possess these weapons?
And if they do, what makes them so special they are not subjected to said IAEA and other inspections concerning said would-be program.
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(05-07-2026, 09:02 AM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: Thank you.
Now then. Why doesn’t Israel declare their nuclear program openly?
Is it because they would be subjected to the same rigors as the countries that possess these weapons?
And if they do, what makes them so special they are not subjected to said IAEA and other inspections concerning said would-be program.
If they openly admit they have them, it would start a nuclear arms race in the M.E. and also they would be subject to the same inspections as every other country with those weapons. No one can actually PROVE they have them, but it's just one of those "everybody knows" kind of secrets.
Beyond that, they have never signed any kind of treaty on nuclear weapons, so they are not subject to those rules.
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05-07-2026, 09:26 AM
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(05-07-2026, 09:19 AM)David64 Wrote: If they openly admit they have them, it would start a nuclear arms race in the M.E. and also they would be subject to the same inspections as every other country with those weapons. No one can actually PROVE they have them, but it's just one of those "everybody knows" kind of secrets.
Beyond that, they have never signed any kind of treaty on nuclear weapons, so they are not subject to those rules.
So it’s just a known open secret that Israel possesses said weapons and no big deal?
Why is this okay? And furthermore, how do we know that Epstein wasn’t the only way they have American politics in the bag. Maybe they needed to diversify their portfolio and carry a bigger stick to blackmail us with.
If you listen to the Israeli spy/traitor Pollard in interviews, he says as much.
ETA: rather quaint they ain’t gotta disclose because it would start an arms race in the Middle East. I mean that is rich. Might as well not look at the sky while it’s raining or your face will get wet.
Tell me again why the U.S. is in Iran. Ahem.
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