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(05-07-2026, 09:29 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/gulf-...pace-bases

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Wait what?

But but, it’s no longer Epic Fury! We blew everything up! We won and stuff. Now we are just doing humanity a favor by leading those poor ships to safety. Humanitarian things and stuff. Dang. This might make Trump look weak. And he gets all sassy when things he does to himself makes him looks bad. Plus he’s gonna have to tuck his tail and grovel to Bibi, saying he did everything that was asked of him.

Gosh. This isn’t going to go well for his next presidential campaign.

C’mon Man!
(05-07-2026, 09:26 AM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: So it’s just a known open secret that Israel possesses said weapons and no big deal?

Why is this okay? And furthermore, how do we know that Epstein wasn’t the only way they have American politics in the bag. Maybe they needed to diversify their portfolio and carry a bigger stick to blackmail us with.

If you listen to the Israeli spy/traitor Pollard in interviews, he says as much.

Yep.

I never said it was ok, just that they've never signed a legally binding treaty and no one has the authority to inspect them.

On the other hand, Iran DID sign a non proliferation treaty so they are subject to inspection, but refuse to let them check all facilities. They are well know to deny access to certain sites.
(05-07-2026, 08:26 AM)RazorV66 Wrote: Isreal has nukes aimed at the USA?

But you are asking for a source to verify that they have them?

To hit the continental United States directly, "Israel" would need a true intercontinental ballistic missile.

It's doubtful that the "Jericho III" could do that job. 

They could hit parts of Europe, Asia, and possibly eastern Africa all the same...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(05-07-2026, 04:10 AM)andy06shake Wrote: How does a nuclear war in the Middle East help anyone? 

History shows wars disrupt global trade, energy prices, migration, and security far beyond borders.

Indifference to mass death is not realism.

It's short-sightedness im afraid...
Seeing as the middle east has been in a perpetual state of war since way before my time on this rock, maybe a regional nuclear exchange will bring all that to an end after they realize the devastating and awesome power that brings. Or we can just keep indiscriminately bombing them and creating problems of our own doing in the mean time.
As for global trade, yes obviously that will take a hit. Just like it is taking a hit now without the use of big weapons. So really one has to ask, is this or the other better for me and my country in the end? Because both are a reality it seems to me.
Our ally

https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/205223...35465?s=20

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Aimen Dean

"Having spoken to a senior Saudi official about the NBC article regarding Project Freedom, I honestly think the article completely misunderstood what actually happened because it was written almost entirely from a US perspective rather than from a GCC perspective.

First of all, contrary to the impression being created, the GCC were NOT blindsided by Project Freedom. They knew about it beforehand. Roughly half a day before. The airspace was opened. The facilities were available. Nobody objected.

There was broad support for the idea because, at least publicly, Project Freedom was supposed to be a limited humanitarian-security operation aimed at relieving the 22,000 sailors trapped around Hormuz and allowing shipping lanes to breathe again. Nobody in the GCC had a problem with that.

But here is the issue .. and this is the part the NBC article completely misses. If you are asking GCC countries to participate in such an operation, then you need to be upfront about the rules of engagement from day one! You cannot say:
“Please open your skies and bases, expose your energy infrastructure” …only for everyone to discover afterwards that the actual American policy was apparently: “Oh by the way, if Iran attacks you with ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and drones in several waves, we still won’t retaliate because Donald Trump is busy chasing The Deal.”

And this is exactly what shocked the Saudis. Not the Iranian attack itself. The UAE/GCC expected retaliation.. This is Iran. Nobody in the Gulf is naïve about that anymore. The shock came from the American reaction afterwards. You had attacks against Emirati infrastructure. Fujairah was targeted. Multiple waves involving drones, ballistic missiles, cruise missiles. And Washington’s response was basically:
“Meh. Minor incident. Let’s not escalate.”

Minor incident?! For the GCC that was madness. Because what Riyadh, Kuwait and Abu Dhabi suddenly realized was that Trump’s obsession with preserving “The Deal” had apparently reached the point where Gulf energy infrastructure was now considered acceptable collateral damage in the pursuit of his precious negotiations. Everything became:
The deal.
The deal.
The beautiful deal.
The greatest deal.
The mother of all deals. The ultimate “Art of the deal” Or perhaps, more accurately:
The ultimate fart of the deal.

Because from the Gulf perspective, this stopped looking like strategy and started looking like desperate political vanity mixed with deadly wishful thinking. Had the GCC been told beforehand:
“Listen, whatever Iran does to you during Project Freedom, America will not retaliate because we do not want to endanger negotiations…” …they would have almost certainly refused participation from the start.

The problem was not Project Freedom itself. The problem was discovering midway through the operation that the GCC countries were apparently expected to sit there quietly as punching bags while Washington played negotiation theatrics with Tehran. So the Saudis and Kuwaitis pulled plug! Because the GCC know something US usually forgets: Iran plays the long game. You can freeze enrichment.
Pause enrichment.
Delay enrichment.
Sign ten agreements.
Twenty agreements.
Forty agreements. But if the infrastructure remains…
If the centrifuges remain…
If the IRGC remains…
If the proxy network remains… then eventually the game resumes.

There will be another distraction.
Another pandemic.
Another financial crisis.
Another war somewhere else.
Another paralysis in Washington. And while the world is distracted, enrichment quietly resumes again. Ironically, much of Iran’s highly enriched uranium stockpile expanded during the pandemic years precisely because global attention was elsewhere.

Judging by the reaction to the UAE attacks, the Saudis and Kuwaitis concluded that Trump’s version of deterrence had become: “Please absorb the missiles quietly because I’m trying to write the sequel to “The Fart of the Deal.”

2:06 AM · May 7, 2026
(05-07-2026, 10:17 AM)DennisR6 Wrote: Seeing as the middle east has been in a perpetual state of war since way before my time on this rock, maybe a regional nuclear exchange will bring all that to an end after they realize the devastating and awesome power that brings. Or we can just keep indiscriminately bombing them and creating problems of our own doing in the mean time.
As for global trade, yes obviously that will take a hit. Just like it is taking a hit now without the use of big weapons. So really one has to ask, is this or the other better for me and my country in the end? Because both are a reality it seems to me.

I can understand the frustration, but history doesn't really show nukes "ending" conflict. 

They mostly just raise the stakes so high that everyone lives under permanent fear.

If in doubt, see the Cold War era, which im old enough to remember the arse end of.

That was not any fun.
 
And a regional nuclear exchange in the Middle East wouldn't stay regional for long...

What it would do is bring about economic collapse, refugee waves, and proxy retaliations.

Never mind radioactive fallout.

All of which spreads fast and unpredictably.

It's possibly worth keeping in mind that more devastation rarely creates stability.

Usually, it just creates traumatised people.

People who grow up to be the next generation of terrorists who want revenge...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(05-07-2026, 10:17 AM)DennisR6 Wrote: Seeing as the middle east has been in a perpetual state of war since way before my time on this rock, maybe a regional nuclear exchange will bring all that to an end after they realize the devastating and awesome power that brings. Or we can just keep indiscriminately bombing them and creating problems of our own doing in the mean time.
As for global trade, yes obviously that will take a hit. Just like it is taking a hit now without the use of big weapons. So really one has to ask, is this or the other better for me and my country in the end? Because both are a reality it seems to me.


Nah.

That ain’t it. You’d have to go back 125 years to when the British sought Iranian oil, and with the help of the CIA half a century later, helped overthrow the Shah that wanted it nationalized.

Then there some other historical tidbits including the U.S. Embassy, the Iraq/Iran War and so on and so forth leading through the latter part of the last century.

But what you are witnessing now is not Epic Fury, nor Project Freedom, not even protecting American interests, or the Iranian people themselves, but the last gasp of Israel to use American hegemony and a fool-hardy US Prez to unleash their Greater Israel Project through military means, before the window closes.

In case you hadn’t noticed, it ain’t goin too great. And it ain’t about nukes either.

American support of Israel, let alone this insane, colonizer endeavor perpetrated by Bibi, is at an all-time low, thanks to the last few years and 100k+ deaths in Gaza and now Lebanon.

It’s really not a big fucking mystery. Why some here go through the charade of acting like it’s anything but exactly this is beyond me.

*shrugs

Deny Ignorance and stuff.
So, no regime change, no help on way for Iranian protesters, Strait now closed, Iran still capable of attacking neighbours with drones and missiles, still insisting on being able to enrich Uranium for "domestic purposes".

So much "winning".
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...



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