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04-30-2026, 10:15 PM
This post was last modified: 04-30-2026, 10:15 PM by SteamyAmerican. 
Nice explanation CS.
Although if I may, I don’t think the U.S. is working in favor of its people either.
FWIW in regards to our dalliances in Iran, or the ME historically speaking.
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(04-30-2026, 09:16 PM)Astyanax Wrote: When Sri Lankans grew fed up with their kleptocratic former rulers, they marched en masse in the streets, tore down the gates of the crooks' palaces and physically – but peacefully – deposed them. Their military (unlike yours) refused to fire on their fellow citizens. When the dust had settled, Sri Lankans then returned to normal national life under a caretaker government, held free and fair elections in which the caretakers, in turn, were replaced by an entirely new government, and started working hard to repair the damage done by the fallen regime. That effort seems to be going very well according to the World Bank report you posted.
An admirable people, really. A shining example to the world and a living rebuke to your own lost and shambling democracy. If I really were Sri Lankan I should be very proud of my country and my people. As it is, I’m simply glad I’m not an American.
And now, for your information, neither I nor Sri Lanka are the topic of this thread. Trump's failure in Iran, as brought about by America's collective moral failure in electing him (twice!) and allowing him to stay in power, is the thread topic. Your post is so irrelevant it makes a mockery of your moderator's badge.
I dont have a moderator badge
The thread topic is Trump says he bombed Iran
Your post said something about the American Experiment failing
All of this is simply a response to your off topic post since you want to point it out
Its weird for a Sri Lankan to say they have pride as a Sri Lankan yet deny they are Sri Lankan
but if you're out of steam im fine with it :) We can end anytime all you have to do is not reply :)
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And also the book on Banana Republics Date Palm Republics.
But that could be very well be how's it plays out. A stalemate vs anti-western conviction, but at least this kinda flipped the Arab states on them. They became persona non grata among the oil producers, with Saudi and UAE pushing most for "finishing the job"...
So there might be an out that wasnt as present during Iraq II, and thats the finality of more important economies surrounding them no longer willing to coexist alongside them. There's a hot Iron of pissed sheiks.
And im trying to be optimistic and NOT to see it as a rebooted quagmire of a failed middle east regime change.
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(04-30-2026, 10:32 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: And also the book on Banana Republics Date Palm Republics.
But that could be very well be how's it plays out. A stalemate vs anti-western conviction, but at least this kinda flipped the Arab states on them. They became persona non grata among the oil producers, with Saudi and UAE pushing most for "finishing the job"...
So there might be an out that wasnt as present during Iraq II and thats ghe finality of more important economies surrounding them no longer willing to coexist.
And im trying to be optimistic and NOT to see it as a rebooted quagmire of a failed middle east regime change.
Yeah just about the entire Gulf area participated in attacking Iran in several different ways. Some even built AI frameworks for the US and Israeli intelligence against them. Their own people were wanting their leadership deposed and I remember maybe even on this thread there were people asking why aren't you going in there America? And then we did and its now "hey stop what are you doing a-holes" lol idk
I do feel for the UK though they were getting crushed before this and now its man I cant imagine Idk how some of you guys are even feeding your families and the conflict just making it harder but im sure it won't last forever at least there's that I wonder just how much Europe crude comes from Iran going to look that up
Apparently the problem isn't crude oil from Iran https://ca.news.yahoo.com/europe-imports...34910.html its that they have been struggling to meet LNG demands because *I'm guessing* the price is too high because LNG depends on crude prices. It was this way before the conflict though just getting worse but the most it can increase should be 1/5 right? Since thats the maximum it can supply the world with?
I wonder if fear itself is causing extra inflation indirectly like when people mass buy toilet paper and then there's a struggle?
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(04-30-2026, 10:43 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: I remember maybe even on this thread there were people asking why aren't you going in there America? And then we did and its now "hey stop what are you doing a-holes"
It was pointing out that the whole premise of liberating Iran (complete with Make Iran Great Again propaganda) as a reason to start this war, was a bullshit lie
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(04-30-2026, 01:08 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: It's a big country to invade with boots on the ground, General. Very true my lad it is a big country. Yet I'm not calling for a full on boots on the ground invasion of Iran.
I'm looking for taking the hormuz straits coastline, plus Tehran. We need to get the Arabs involved in this plus Kurds too. They will need US and IDF guidance too. Just a knockout blow in Tehran might bring the natives out of their hiding places and overthrow the Regime. Certain countries of Arabs in the region need to be pushed for involvement.it's their locality, Arabs have got plenty of dosh, they've been sold military gear by the West that is generations ahead of anything the sanctioned Persians can field. It's time to get off their lazy Arab backsides and get fighting rather than getting the Jews and Americans to defend them. They've got the finance and equipment to do the job themselves. Are they just lazy or scared? Time for the Arab world to step up.
“If we believe a thing to be bad, and if we have a right to prevent it, it is our duty to try to prevent it and damn the consequences.”
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05-01-2026, 03:22 AM
This post was last modified: 05-01-2026, 03:32 AM by IDELB2006. 
(04-30-2026, 09:25 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: U.S. CENTCOM JUST BRIEFED TRUMP FOR A ‘FINAL BLOW’ AGAINST IRAN
https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/2050...52893?s=20
It is important to really sell it when the goal is to manipulate markets.
Quote:During an interview with Newsmax’s Greta Van Susteren, the president declared that the US had achieved victory, but said he wanted to win by a “bigger margin”.
“We’ve already won, but I want to win by a bigger margin,” he said. “But we have. We have destroyed their navy, destroyed their air force, destroyed all of their — if you look at their anti-aircraft equipment, their radar equipment, their leadership, their leadership is destroyed.”
Despite his insistence that Iran is already beaten, the president is continuing his blockade of the Strait of Hormuz.
And "bigger margins", yup thats for when you know its a sure thing.
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(05-01-2026, 12:41 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: It was pointing out that the whole premise of liberating Iran (complete with Make Iran Great Again propaganda) as a reason to start this war, was a bullshit lie
All im saying is people pushed for it like we weren't going to do it I think someone in the UK even called American chickens lol then it happened and ohhhh noooo that's all im saying
I just thought it was funny
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(05-01-2026, 06:51 AM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: All im saying is people pushed for it like we weren't going to do it I think someone in the UK even called American chickens lol then it happened and ohhhh noooo that's all im saying
I just thought it was funny
A little less humorous when POTUS start threatening to destroy entire civilisations, all the same...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(05-01-2026, 07:23 AM)andy06shake Wrote: A little less humorous when POTUS start threatening to destroy entire civilisations, all the same...
The humor is in the irony of people and not in the destruction of civilization. I could of sworn I remember people saying that.
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