Trump says he bombed Iran

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

It's a pressure campaign to have Trump cede to Iran and open the Strait.

They have 4 weeks left then.

No airline on the planet would reduce potential revenue to pretend like they ran out of fuel, so if in 4 weeks (6 from April 16th) there is no disruption with a still closed strait we know it was geopolitical leverage and BS. 

At least his one can be tested by May 31st.

[RazorV66]

The "Panic Media" now says;

We have 6 weeks of fuel left
We have no fertilizer


What else will they try to scare us with?

I see the stories now.

They are saying Europe has 6 weeks of jet fuel left.

Start walking.

[IDELB2006]

Yesturday I read that the Minnesota state agriculture department declaired a state of emergency because they could not get enough fertilizer. That will raise prices soon.

I can't find that online. Do you remember where you saw it?

[RazorV66]

The "Panic Media" now says;

We have 6 weeks of fuel left
We have no fertilizer


What else will they try to scare us with?

What the media is really trying to sell is that we are losing the war against Iran and the sheep are eating it up.

Iran has no navy or air force left and their ballistic missile capability is almost nonexistent. 

Their leadership is down to a gay, bed ridden Ayatollah and maybe a couple generals that just hide in caves now.

The only reason the Strait of Hormuz issue is still lingering is because of MONEY.

Insurers will not insure tankers that want to transit the Strait under the "threat" of a possible attack by Iran.

The Strait is not completely open yet but we are sure as shit not losing a war to them.

[CriticalStinker]

They have 4 weeks left then.

No airline on the planet would reduce potential revenue to pretend like they ran out of fuel, so if in 4 weeks (6 from April 16th) there is no disruption with a still closed strait we know it was geopolitical leverage and BS. 

At least his one can be tested by May 31st.

I don't think it's that simple.

We saw a correction in the market and oil really soar in March. Then we saw a strong narrative from the government the war was almost over, then a ceasefire was agreed upon. 

The S&P 500 hit a record high today. So either the market sees an end to the war, or it bounced back before resolution. I think that remains to be seen, but my guess is we'll find out in the next week one way or the other.

May 1st is the 60 day mark from initial strikes. They could argue ceasefire paused that, and I believe there is precedence of that from Obama with Libya. But I still think they would resume soon before it could come up in congress. So if nothing happens in the next week, my guess is things stay at a stale mate.

Also, the airspace just cleared over Iran and Iraq with reports of Iranian AA fire at drones earlier in the evening. Take that for what you will.

[Astyanax]

Its not pretense if it's fact its right there for anyone to look up I even added a reputable source. I read it thoroughly just because it sounds upbeat to you doesn't mean my hypothesis on why its still failing isn't accurate. The growth isn't enough and if you dug into it further you'd still see its collapse but I dont blame you its hard to see when you're living in it. You are aware of the 2022 collapse right? Sure you are, and you haven't noticed your social programs like medical struggling to survive? Maybe you should get out more often.

America always has American approval idk why you thought that sentence even made sense. I see several Americans approving right here in this thread and a lot more of them than the Americans that aren't by estimate on this thread 2 out of 7 Americans disapprove maybe you need to work on math. Please point to the Americans unapproving and the only thing I see them unapprove of is Trump, not America itself. So thats 2.5x the Americans that approve those odds are pretty ridiculous. As for national integrity I don't think anyone cares how Sri Lanka sees us and the only social fracture I see is your entire socialist Republic fracturing around you. American friends around the world are shocked and disappointed? When was the last time a UK royal member visited Sri Lanka 1981? They are currently enjoying our society at this present moment including the time spent with our representatives. I have nothing to defend, my facts don't lie and all I have seen from you is opinion and everyone has one of those which is why they are valued so little. You know what matters? Finance, and America is an economic powerhouse and Sri Lanka should take note.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan...80%932024) here's more reading about it. Your country didn't almost fail it 100% failed and is recovering but people are fleeing this is not a lie so how can we really trust reports of growth from the world bank if thats true? I can find sources of all the professionals leaving if you like

You like quotes, right? Here's one. "Those that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."

When Sri Lankans grew fed up with their kleptocratic former rulers, they marched en masse in the streets, tore down the gates of the crooks' palaces and physically – but peacefully – deposed them. Their military (unlike yours) refused to fire on their fellow citizens. When the dust had settled, Sri Lankans then returned to normal national life under a caretaker government, held free and fair elections in which the caretakers, in turn, were replaced by an entirely new government, and started working hard to repair the damage done by the fallen regime. That effort seems to be going very well according to the World Bank report you posted.

An admirable people, really. A shining example to the world and a living rebuke to your own lost and shambling democracy. If I really were Sri Lankan I should be very proud of my country and my people. As it is, I’m simply glad I’m not an American.

And now, for your information, neither I nor Sri Lanka are the topic of this thread. Trump's failure in Iran, as brought about by America's collective moral failure in electing him (twice!) and allowing him to stay in power, is the thread topic. Your post is so irrelevant it makes a mockery of your moderator's badge.

[cherokeetroy]

I don't think it's that simple.

We saw a correction in the market and oil really soar in March. Then we saw a strong narrative from the government the war was almost over, then a ceasefire was agreed upon. 

The S&P 500 hit a record high today. So either the market sees an end to the war, or it bounced back before resolution. I think that remains to be seen, but my guess is we'll find out in the next week one way or the other.

May 1st is the 60 day mark from initial strikes. They could argue ceasefire paused that, and I believe there is precedence of that from Obama with Libya. But I still think they would resume soon before it could come up in congress. So if nothing happens in the next week, my guess is things stay at a stale mate.

Also, the airspace just cleared over Iran and Iraq with reports of Iranian AA fire at drones earlier in the evening. Take that for what you will.

U.S. CENTCOM JUST BRIEFED TRUMP FOR A ‘FINAL BLOW’ AGAINST IRAN
https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/2050...52893?s=20

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

I don't think it's that simple.

We saw a correction in the market and oil really soar in March. Then we saw a strong narrative from the government the war was almost over, then a ceasefire was agreed upon. 

The S&P 500 hit a record high today. So either the market sees an end to the war, or it bounced back before resolution. I think that remains to be seen, but my guess is we'll find out in the next week one way or the other.

May 1st is the 60 day mark from initial strikes. They could argue ceasefire paused that, and I believe there is precedence of that from Obama with Libya. But I still think they would resume soon before it could come up in congress. So if nothing happens in the next week, my guess is things stay at a stale mate.

Also, the airspace just cleared over Iran and Iraq with reports of Iranian AA fire at drones earlier in the evening. Take that for what you will.

Does anything in this really last longer than 72 hours? 

This is a tenuous ticking clock right now. "If the strait remains closed" they lose their safe supply slowly, but I gotta agree they'd have every reason to make a situation seem more dire for leverage. For now it can maintain...

But stalemate might be an understatement.  

• The U.S. demands the unconditional reopening of the Strait, an end to Iran's nuclear program, and limits on its missile capabilities.
  
• Iran demands an end to U.S. and Israeli attacks, the removal of the naval blockade, and international recognition of its sovereignty over the Strait, including the right to collect tolls from passing ships.
  

That doesnt seem close at all. Iran has an unreasonable demand for sovereignty over an international passage and they must know that's a "go fuck yourself" non-starter to keep this deadlocked. 

Before this war Iran never demanded strait sovereignty, now they do.  And im really starting to doubt (US/Israel) played through any of this in that regard.  At least downplayed how much Iran could derail this. 

I think a lot of this of what makes this so annoying is the mostly adlibed approach since Iran came up with their new now most important demand. 

And half of Trump's effort now is to try to keep commerce appeased while Iran does everything possible to force instability and win through other countries more dependent on the strait pressuring the US to cave.

Starve the fuel supply vs. Starve Iran.

That or commit Troops and just take the fucking strait by force - which he's currently still trying to avoid.

[BeyondKnowledge]

I can't find that online. Do you remember where you saw it?

It was on Google news. I am looking for it but Google news has updated there system yesterday. Trying to figure out how to search on it. I will post a link when I find it.

[CriticalStinker]

Does anything in this really last longer than 72 hours? 

This is a tenuous ticking clock right now. "If the strait remains closed" they lose their safe supply slowly, but I gotta agree they'd have every reason to make a situation seem more dire for leverage. For now it can maintain...

But stalemate might be an understatement.  

That doesnt seem close at all. Iran has an unreasonable demand for sovereignty over an international passage and they must know that's a "go fuck yourself" non-starter to keep this deadlocked. 

Before this war Iran never demanded strait sovereignty, now they do.  And im really starting to doubt (US/Israel) played through any of this in that regard.  At least downplayed how much Iran could derail this. 

I think a lot of this of what makes this so annoying is the mostly adlibed approach since Iran came up with their new now most important demand. 

And half of Trump's effort now is to try to keep commerce appeased while Iran does everything possible to force instability and win through other countries more dependent on the strait pressuring the US to cave.

Starve the fuel supply vs. Starve Iran.

That or commit Troops and just take the fucking strait by force - which he's currently still trying to avoid.

I don't think the Iranian government are acting in the best interest for their people. So I'm not necessarily trying to predict their leaderships actions based upon that assumption.

That said, I don't think we could starve the Iranian people anymore than they could starve us. There's this misconception that 10-30% of GDP/Revenue/whatever can break a country in the short term. That's just false. We have seen all through history countries that should have been absolutely broken continue to show resistance. We've even seen instances where the media representing both sides have said we're months/years away from each side folding. That is Ukraine and Russia. In the west, we were told that sanctions would eventually break Russia. We saw their biggest customer Europe even severe trade. And with Ukraine we saw a non peer lose most of their economy while still fighting a greater power.

The lesson with man or animals isn't resources or wealth, it's conviction. That shouldn't be a foreign concept for American's who's independence was from a superpower. We helped write the modern guerrilla warfare manual. 

We replaced the Taliban with the Taliban, Iraq with a failed state we tried to install, Syria similar to Iraq, Yemen like the prior two. This isn't me being anti American, we could win any war we absolutely have to while struggling with ambitions the people don't support. That is the world, same as it always has been. We spend more than the next ten countries combined to fund our war machine, but the more you advance the sword, the more people adapt the shields. 

Again, we can win any war we absolutely have to win, but that is a human attribute not specific to ethnicity or nation. Most American's didn't think about Iran a year ago, so they're not completely bought in to a war of attrition. Iran is in no uncertain terms facing their very survival, something made very clear in the last month.