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Well, I am just going to pitch in my opinion on this. Either we are or are not going to commit to a full fledged civilizational conflict. I am pretty sure neither option is my choice to ultimately make, and if it were I would choose to somehow just step back from the brink and not send any more of our friends and family to die in lands who's people all seem ready to fight that fight and die themselves in defense of their homeland. 

I want to believe that can still happen, but I may as well gameplan some eventualities just in case right? I personally think if we are going to allow ourselves to degenerate and throw tens of thousands of American lives old school style like Korea and Vietnam, which is how it is going to have to be if we want to get any serious square footage from this endeavor this is how I would want it to go. And yes, the whole world is going to suffer financially, but the world goes on. At the end of a few grueling months land will be in possession , concessions may come into play and yet another New World Order. I am forty, so thats got to be like the fourth one in my lifetime by now I think?

Absolute full on destruction of Kharg Island and all its infrastructure. This can be accomplished with B-52's and some old school ordinance with drones and 5th gen fighters running cover. Just the good old carpet bombing from our old 20th century zombie cyborg corpse. F-22's and B2's and more drones and B1's, can be flying on a time delayed or elapsed schedule to respond to the deep mountain assets that will no doubt spring into action to try and save in vain that storage and logistics hub. Stuff will be no doubt shot at Israel, thats ok this is the war they wanted they can take the hit. Those follow up waves should be at least three follow up waves of the super high atmosphere stealth bombers that were already en route . Staggered properly we could get an eff ton of the reprisal launch sites and a continuing stream of newly activated reserve sites with losing maybe only three bombers at most if they can get see through the drones and their EW capabilites.
Iran has been hijacking our drones since Afghanistan  so we need to stop underestimating their damn capabilites.

All of this air power is for not if we stage the most immense air cover operation in history for our land op and the damned Chinese, Russians and NoKos have been working with the Iranians on a damn EMP weapon that brings down our air force assets free falling and easy marks. Like the enemy air formations that attacked Israel in the fictional Left Behind Christian revelations fiction story. It could be hype, but what if it it is not?? How can that be shielded against?? Someone else's  assignment to figure out clearly.

Now the land thing about recovering the enriched Uranium is just dumb. Leave it alone, this is really more about the transit control anyways and the micro fees that generate tens of trillions annually especially with a monopolistic hold on the energy straits of the world. It would be too expensive in lives and equipment for minimum payout. Our industries are already evolving to fill in that gap. Focus on taking the naval base at Bandar Abbas I think it was called where their naval base is and the Island Qeshm. Whatever the Persians lose our alliance can rebuild in a more strategic buffer on Qeshm. The side facing Oman. The parts facing Iran we can incorporate missile defense systems, CIWS, CRAM, lasers etc... micro nuclear reactors to power it all yadda yadda let AI fill in the details.

Now on to manpower for the island. None of this, absolutly not one iota or single order or fart must happen without at least 20,000 Israelis manning the front. Our badass killer beastly warrior men who actually volunteer for this stuff as a living will be there to support you. So will many of your owns. But Israel is going to have to cough up manpower for an Iranian land invasion. No waivers for arts degrees, no passport to leave. Give it to their citizens the way Ukraine was forced by NATO to do to their own. Round em up at the malls and coffee shops and animal groomers if you go to. Israel wants a war and a land invasion?? You got it pal, now push your kids to the front of the line, we have given too many of our own already. WE can do it together. But no more of this background bullshit. There will be robots. Better believe there will be. Tell me they cannot sell me no damn robots a second year in a row cuz national defense needs the production logistics right now ... yea sure. You mean they are on the way to Qeshm and Bandar Abbas first , ok fine I guess I can wait for my robotic pal to carry my dang bags from the mall with my 62 pound emotional support dog and my litter of spawn following behind. Unnecessary violence is a good test anyways. Got to make sure that Lidar technology is calibrated properly for my trips to the bar and stuff too.

Yup. So on the Naval side we have too contain China's energy access through that straight of Malacca and thanks to that deal with Indonesia this may very well be possible. China has the numbers, but not the experience or the cojones if I am being honest. I do not believe they will be ready to get into an open deep water naval confrontation, but drones could always be the game changer in all this. Our production time is degraded badly through years of traitorous WEF politicians and dastardly Bilderberg billionaires, generals, senators and Monarchs.

Invest in our production and we can catch up much faster. Thats another front. Convincing our population to divest from Chinese companies and invest more into American rivals. Asian markets are ok if Japan and Korea and Indonesia and Taiwan and a bunch more but for obvious reason no on China. Citizen funding of corporations makes a huge impact in GDP and production rates. Get our hedge funds and pensions and 401's out of China but still in the broader Asia market.

Russia has the balls and experience to confront the USA and allied states on the field, but lacks the numbers. It will attempt to do so where it believes it can. If such an operation against Kharg Island happened successfully without some kind of EMP (sold as GOD) to drop our bombers like anvils I believe Russia would directly patrol Iranian skies afterwards and instigate kinetic confrontation within that airspace. With Japan and Korea and Thailand and Australia and Singapore still being able to get energy through these straights now under the alliance naval control, they will accommodate logistics and even direct Naval support. Numbers to numbers. Is China ready to finally go kinetic?? Maybe a big enough show of force could convince them otherwise. Its a coin toss on that front imo. I do not know what India is going to do. I sincerely have no clue. Other than eight handed face palming and condemnation they seem open to continue doing business.

That was very disgusting I felt very dirty writing out such possible mayhem and calamity .What if instead the mooch Benjamin Netanyahu is crucified for the world's sins, he can then become the new Christ but we be rid of him, and everyone just goes back to doing business without demolishing Gazans and Lebanese and pop shotting Syrians. We can display his preserved crucified body in his most pimped out outfits with gold chains and some limited editions Air Jordans or Timberlands at a permanent remembrance shrine/temple? Just a thought.

All or nothing ... All or nothing .... what a terrible precipice for the world to be at right now. Money is moving fast, will ours go in the right direction, or against destiny?? Another dilemma to ponder over. I will prey all these options and exponentially more are going to be discussed next month when Xi and Trump finally face to face again and the real negotiations over the future of the 21st century are hammered out. I write this out fictionally, but it just keeps creeping towards reality... somebody please deescalate somewhere. So much pain is impending.
(04-30-2026, 05:15 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: It was only a matter of time. Now with the strait shut down for everyone, prices will shoot up faster.



Yesturday I read that the Minnesota state agriculture department declaired a state of emergency because they could not get enough fertilizer. That will raise prices soon.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
Gee... with this current climate I cant wait for The World Cup! Such a lovely time to host the world's number one sport with two other countries the world isn't pissed at...

French Fan: "Please be in Montreal, please be in Montreal 

English Fan: "Please be in Vancouver, Please be in Vancouver!"

I wonder how much truth there actually is to that, if we are no longer a tourist destination, and how arrogant or unpleasant the global perception of us has become?

I don't like watching it happen. Watching our globalist diplomacy turn to isolationism is like watching a tragic break-up in slow motion.  Its kinda heartbreaking, I liked it better when we were friends with people and we didnt decide we hated them because they cut back on defense spending or used sometimes high tariffs to fund their social programs. I just saw a neoliberal economy trading with a free market welfare state. 

Now im supposed to mad their democratically decided upon socialized safety nets are an affront to our existence?

It is like i am now being counter conditioned to reverse the laissez-faire course and think we are better alone, and it's sad to me.
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(04-30-2026, 05:20 PM)worldstarcountry Wrote: Well, I am just going to pitch in my opinion on this. Either we are or are not going to commit to a full fledged civilizational conflict. I am pretty sure neither option is my choice to ultimately make, and if it were I would choose to somehow just step back from the brink and not send any more of our friends and family to die in lands who's people all seem ready to fight that fight and die themselves in defense of their homeland. 

I want to believe that can still happen, but I may as well gameplan some eventualities just in case right? I personally think if we are going to allow ourselves to degenerate and throw tens of thousands of American lives old school style like Korea and Vietnam, which is how it is going to have to be if we want to get any serious square footage from this endeavor this is how I would want it to go. And yes, the whole world is going to suffer financially, but the world goes on. At the end of a few grueling months land will be in possession , concessions may come into play and yet another New World Order. I am forty, so thats got to be like the fourth one in my lifetime by now I think?

Absolute full on destruction of Kharg Island and all its infrastructure. This can be accomplished with B-52's and some old school ordinance with drones and 5th gen fighters running cover. Just the good old carpet bombing from our old 20th century zombie cyborg corpse. F-22's and B2's and more drones and B1's, can be flying on a time delayed or elapsed schedule to respond to the deep mountain assets that will no doubt spring into action to try and save in vain that storage and logistics hub. Stuff will be no doubt shot at Israel, thats ok this is the war they wanted they can take the hit. Those follow up waves should be at least three follow up waves of the super high atmosphere stealth bombers that were already en route . Staggered properly we could get an eff ton of the reprisal launch sites and a continuing stream of newly activated reserve sites with losing maybe only three bombers at most if they can get see through the drones and their EW capabilites.
Iran has been hijacking our drones since Afghanistan  so we need to stop underestimating their damn capabilites.

All of this air power is for not if we stage the most immense air cover operation in history for our land op and the damned Chinese, Russians and NoKos have been working with the Iranians on a damn EMP weapon that brings down our air force assets free falling and easy marks. Like the enemy air formations that attacked Israel in the fictional Left Behind Christian revelations fiction story. It could be hype, but what if it it is not?? How can that be shielded against?? Someone else's  assignment to figure out clearly.

Now the land thing about recovering the enriched Uranium is just dumb. Leave it alone, this is really more about the transit control anyways and the micro fees that generate tens of trillions annually especially with a monopolistic hold on the energy straits of the world. It would be too expensive in lives and equipment for minimum payout. Our industries are already evolving to fill in that gap. Focus on taking the naval base at Bandar Abbas I think it was called where their naval base is and the Island Qeshm. Whatever the Persians lose our alliance can rebuild in a more strategic buffer on Qeshm. The side facing Oman. The parts facing Iran we can incorporate missile defense systems, CIWS, CRAM, lasers etc... micro nuclear reactors to power it all yadda yadda let AI fill in the details.

Now on to manpower for the island. None of this, absolutly not one iota or single order or fart must happen without at least 20,000 Israelis manning the front. Our badass killer beastly warrior men who actually volunteer for this stuff as a living will be there to support you. So will many of your owns. But Israel is going to have to cough up manpower for an Iranian land invasion. No waivers for arts degrees, no passport to leave. Give it to their citizens the way Ukraine was forced by NATO to do to their own. Round em up at the malls and coffee shops and animal groomers if you go to. Israel wants a war and a land invasion?? You got it pal, now push your kids to the front of the line, we have given too many of our own already. WE can do it together. But no more of this background bullshit. There will be robots. Better believe there will be. Tell me they cannot sell me no damn robots a second year in a row cuz national defense needs the production logistics right now ... yea sure. You mean they are on the way to Qeshm and Bandar Abbas first , ok fine I guess I can wait for my robotic pal to carry my dang bags from the mall with my 62 pound emotional support dog and my litter of spawn following behind. Unnecessary violence is a good test anyways. Got to make sure that Lidar technology is calibrated properly for my trips to the bar and stuff too.

Yup. So on the Naval side we have too contain China's energy access through that straight of Malacca and thanks to that deal with Indonesia this may very well be possible. China has the numbers, but not the experience or the cojones if I am being honest. I do not believe they will be ready to get into an open deep water naval confrontation, but drones could always be the game changer in all this. Our production time is degraded badly through years of traitorous WEF politicians and dastardly Bilderberg billionaires, generals, senators and Monarchs.

Invest in our production and we can catch up much faster. Thats another front. Convincing our population to divest from Chinese companies and invest more into American rivals. Asian markets are ok if Japan and Korea and Indonesia and Taiwan and a bunch more but for obvious reason no on China. Citizen funding of corporations makes a huge impact in GDP and production rates. Get our hedge funds and pensions and 401's out of China but still in the broader Asia market.

Russia has the balls and experience to confront the USA and allied states on the field, but lacks the numbers. It will attempt to do so where it believes it can. If such an operation against Kharg Island happened successfully without some kind of EMP (sold as GOD) to drop our bombers like anvils I believe Russia would directly patrol Iranian skies afterwards and instigate kinetic confrontation within that airspace. With Japan and Korea and Thailand and Australia and Singapore still being able to get energy through these straights now under the alliance naval control, they will accommodate logistics and even direct Naval support. Numbers to numbers. Is China ready to finally go kinetic?? Maybe a big enough show of force could convince them otherwise. Its a coin toss on that front imo. I do not know what India is going to do. I sincerely have no clue. Other than eight handed face palming and condemnation they seem open to continue doing business.

That was very disgusting I felt very dirty writing out such possible mayhem and calamity .What if instead the mooch Benjamin Netanyahu is crucified for the world's sins, he can then become the new Christ but we be rid of him, and everyone just goes back to doing business without demolishing Gazans and Lebanese and pop shotting Syrians. We can display his preserved crucified body in his most pimped out outfits with gold chains and some limited editions Air Jordans or Timberlands at a permanent remembrance shrine/temple? Just a thought.

All or nothing ... All or nothing .... what a terrible precipice for the world to be at right now. Money is moving fast, will ours go in the right direction, or against destiny?? Another dilemma to ponder over. I will prey all these options and exponentially more are going to be discussed next month when Xi and Trump finally face to face again and the real negotiations over the future of the 21st century are hammered out. I write this out fictionally, but it just keeps creeping towards reality... somebody please deescalate somewhere. So much pain is impending.

I read this in the voice of Hunter S. Thompson from fear and loathing in Las Vegas and it was epic as hell!
The "Panic Media" now says;

We have 6 weeks of fuel left
We have no fertilizer


What else will they try to scare us with?
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
(04-30-2026, 05:28 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Gee... with this current climate I cant wait for The World Cup! Such a lovely time to host the world's number one sport with two other countries the world isn't pissed at...

French Fan: "Please be in Montreal, please be in Montreal 

English Fan: "Please be in Vancouver, Please be in Vancouver!"

I wonder how much truth there actually is to that, if we are no longer a tourist destination, and how arrogant or unpleasant the global perception of us has become?

I don't like watching it happen. Watching our globalist diplomacy turn to isolationism is like watching a tragic break-up in slow motion.  Its kinda heartbreaking, I liked it better when we were friends with people and we didnt decide we hated them because they cut back on defense spending or used sometimes high tariffs to fund their social programs. I just saw a neoliberal economy trading with a free market welfare state. 

Now im supposed to mad their democratically decided upon socialized safety nets are an affront to our existence?

It is like i am now being counter conditioned to reverse the laissez-faire course and think we are better alone, and it's sad to me.

The rest of the world might hate, but, they all LOVE American entertainment and thats our real industry I think. We are like one giant ass telenovela with a side helping of musical bs with almost zero musical skills. Except metal of course ;)
(04-30-2026, 05:14 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: We all know what he actually said.  If you think it was good, you do you.

We won't forget.

He still by definition recanted and formerly withdrew his statement in more than one place which is what you asked for and hadn't seen.
(04-30-2026, 05:34 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: The "Panic Media" now says;

We have 6 weeks of fuel left
We have no fertilizer


What else will they try to scare us with?

Are you sure you're not also being scared that they are scared?

Like all spun media this has a real number somewhere. 
Quote:European Jet Fuel: The International Energy Agency (IEA) warned on April 16, 2026, that Europe has "maybe six weeks or so" of jet fuel left due to the closure of the Strait of Hormuz.

So in 6 weeks our war may hamper EU air travel significantly. With significant potential losses to our economy in tourism and international travel revenue..  

75% of EUs jet fuel imports needed to meet the demand passes through the strait. So its not 6 weeks from "running out" but 6 weeks from rationing.

And USA, Nigerian, and bypassed Gulf State exports cannot keep up.
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(04-30-2026, 05:50 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Are you sure you're not also being scared that they are scared?

Like all spun media this has a real number somewhere. 

So in 6 weeks our war may hamper EU air travel significantly. With significant potential losses to our economy in tourism and international travel revenue..  

75% of EUs jet fuel imports needed to meet the demand passes through the strait. So its not 6 weeks from "running out" but 6 weeks from rationing.

And USA, Nigerian, and bypassed Gulf State exports cannot keep up.

It's a pressure campaign to have Trump cede to Iran and open the Strait.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
(04-30-2026, 05:34 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: The "Panic Media" now says;

We have 6 weeks of fuel left
We have no fertilizer


What else will they try to scare us with?


Are they really saying that?

Lying assholes.



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