Trump says he bombed Iran

[ReturnofBroccoli]

It was contrived and orchestrated, manufactured.

And the sheep fell for it.

Im not denying that im just wondering if it was a global thing

[DBCowboy]

Im just saying its easier to reach people when you dont make them fish through the entire swamp, isnt it?

It's also called common sense.

 

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

More fear-mongering.

And war is only popular for those who want to win.

Fear-mongering?  Sure it might persuade a few "we are doing harm to Iranians," but you gotta expect that angle.  

But you also gotta expect a war primarily focused on a shipping corridor is going to cause dispurption.. such as red meat, soybean, and rice imports, which can lead to shortages and price spikes in those items.

In March, traffic reduced to near zero. Because they use The Gulf Ports for 95% of their total imports there was destined to be price gouging of imported staples.

So what they (the media) is doing is piecing together several examples (while ignoring a broader context) to paint a more dire picture to win support for their view. That's standardized politicking for everyone. 

It can be believed or debunked contextually with a little research.

The are running out of bread (internally), red meat, rice, while internal supply still covers 65-75% of needs. But its still enough of an issue in Iran to be useful... or evidence of the effect the USA is having on their ability to sustain themselves like before. 

A continued blockade just puts more strain on their internal supply and increasingly selfish demand - that tends to horde when things start drying up.

[chr0naut]

I guess the EU and other nations along with the US shouldn't have gone full retard on green energy then.
  

While the propaganda you receive might lead you to believe that other countries have succumbed to climate change denial, the truth is that few changed policies in line with the US and they have continued efforts to reform their energy economies.

Here's a quick list of some of the progress towards energy independence internationally:

Iceland: Nearly 100% of its electricity generation is from renewable sources, primarily hydropower (75.5%) and geothermal power in 2024.

Norway: Nearly 98% of its electricity is generated by hydropower in 2024.

New Zealand: In 2024, 85.5% of electricity was generated from renewable sources, with approximately 44% of total primary energy (heat and power) coming from renewables in 2024.

Sweden: 66% of its electricity is generated by Hydropower, Nuclear and Wind in 2024

Finland: 51.4% in 2024.

Denmark: 46.5% in 2024.

The European Union (as a group): achieved a 25.4% share of renewable energy in final energy consumption in 2024, aiming for 42.5% by 2030, according to the European Environment Agency.

Lithuania: Renewable generation has more than doubled since 2018, with over 60% of power coming from renewables in 2024.

Luxembourg: Over 60% of its electricity is produced from wind and solar in 2024.

Germany: Currently generates approximately 45% of its electricity from renewable sources, with a goal of 80% by 2030.

Spain: Wind and solar power account for approximately 43% of its electricity generation.

The energy dynamic worldwide is changing and current events will only incentivise more rapid change. The end of oil dominance is inevitable.

[RazorV66]

While the propaganda you receive might lead you to believe that other countries have succumbed to climate change denial, the truth is that few changed policies in line with the US and they have continued efforts to reform their energy economies.

Here's a quick list of some of the progress towards energy independence internationally:

Iceland: Nearly 100% of its electricity generation is from renewable sources, primarily hydropower (75.5%) and geothermal power in 2024.

Norway: Nearly 98% of its electricity is generated by hydropower in 2024.

New Zealand: In 2024, 85.5% of electricity was generated from renewable sources, with approximately 44% of total primary energy (heat and power) coming from renewables in 2024.

Sweden: 66% of its electricity is generated by Hydropower, Nuclear and Wind in 2024

Finland: 51.4% in 2024.

Denmark: 46.5% in 2024.

The European Union (as a group): achieved a 25.4% share of renewable energy in final energy consumption in 2024, aiming for 42.5% by 2030, according to the European Environment Agency.

Lithuania: Renewable generation has more than doubled since 2018, with over 60% of power coming from renewables in 2024.

Luxembourg: Over 60% of its electricity is produced from wind and solar in 2024.

Germany: Currently generates approximately 45% of its electricity from renewable sources, with a goal of 80% by 2030.

Spain: Wind and solar power account for approximately 43% of its electricity generation.

The energy dynamic worldwide is changing and current events will only incentivise more rapid change. The end of oil dominance is inevitable.

Then none of them should be crying about oil prices and what Trump is doing in the Middle East.

But they all are.

[chr0naut]

Then none of them should be crying about oil prices and what Trump is doing in the Middle East.

Firstly, I would like to point out that none of them have joined in the war - none of them have aligned themselves with either side, or sent their military to police the situation.

People always complain if prices go up, and they have every right to.

Most countries still have some degree of reliance on oil. The change is not complete yet, and even after we cut reliance for energy, there are the agrichemicals and manufacturing industries that rely on oil derived chemicals and lubricants.

[RazorV66]

Firstly, I would like to point out that none of them have joined in the war - none of them have aligned themselves with either side, or sent their military to police the situation.

People always complain if prices go up, and they have every right to.

Most countries still have some degree of reliance on oil. The change is not complete yet, and even after we cut reliance for energy, there are the agrichemicals and manufacturing industries that rely on oil derived chemicals and lubricants.

And internal combustion engines will never go away. Ever.

[DBCowboy]

Fear-mongering?  Sure it might persuade a few "we are doing harm to Iranians," but you gotta expect that angle.  

But you also gotta expect a war primarily focused on a shipping corridor is going to cause dispurption.. such as red meat, soybean, and rice imports, which can lead to shortages and price spikes in those items.

In March, traffic reduced to near zero. Because they use The Gulf Ports for 95% of their total imports there was destined to be price gouging of imported stapples.

So what they (the media) is doing is piecing together several examples (while ignoring a broader context) to paint a more dire picture to win support for their view. That's standardized politicking for everyone. 

It can be believed or debunked contextually with a little research.

The are running out of bread (internally), red meat, rice, while internal supply still covers 65-75% of needs. But its still enough of an issue in Iran to be useful... or evidence of the effect the USA is having on their ability to sustain themselves like before. 

A continued blockade just puts more strain on their internal supply and increasingly selfish demand - that tends to horde when things start drying up.

If you are anti-Trump/Pro-Iran, then you can manipulate the markets to punish regular folks so they will vote differently.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

It's also called common sense.

 

Then next time you make a vague comment like that I will take it as partisan because ya know....

Common sense

[EXETER]

The opposition, Iran/Democrats/Anti-Americans/Pro-Iranian factions are now pushing and orchestrating fear-mongering tropes about lack of food, lack of fuel, to pressure the Trump administration to end hostilities with Iran.

This isn't partisan, this is a factual observation.

No, it's not.  

The factual observations are coming from the experts in each of the fields who keep track on a daily basis of what the war is doing to the world's demand and supply of oil, natural gas, fertilizer, sulfuric acid, aluminum, and so on.  

You aren't one of those experts, and neither am I, but I trust them much more than I trust your shoot-from-the-hip statements.  

For example:  "When Iran bombed two aluminum smelters in the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain late last month, it took out roughly 3 million metric tons of yearly aluminum capacity from the global market in the span of a couple of days. The sites belonged to Emirates Global Aluminium and Aluminium Bahrain, two of the largest smelters in the Middle East, and represented roughly half of the total primary aluminum production in the region, which accounts for over 20% of the global non-Chinese supply.   Aluminum prices jumped as a result, recording a surge of over 11% as of April 16 on the London Metal Exchange. That’s the highest price since 2022, when Russia, one of the major global producers of primary aluminum, invaded Ukraine."

https://www.latitudemedia.com/news/why-t...m-strikes/

"In 2024, up to 30% of global fertilizer trade passed through the Strait of Hormuz from the Persian Gulf to export markets around the world, as well as an estimated 20% of liquified natural gas (LNG), a key fertilizer feedstock, and 27% of globally traded oil. Now, with Iran limiting shipping through this critical maritime corridor in response to attacks by the United States and Israel, prices have risen sharply across energy and fertilizer markets. Meanwhile, attacks by both sides in the conflict have damaged production sites and export hubs including Raw Laffan Industrial City in Qatar (LNG) and Iran's Kharg Island (oil). Additional attacks would further reduce supplies."

https://www.ifpri.org/blog/the-iran-wars...roduction/

The industrial processes that supply all of these commodities cannot be turned off and on instantly.  If the war ended today, there would still be many months of worldwide shortages and economic disruption before the world economy could get back to normal.  Most of the experts I pay attention to say it would continue at least through the end of the year.  Remember when the COVID pandemic shut down the world economy in 2020 and the vaccine came out around the first of 2021 and then the economy suddenly came back to life?  The recovery from that disruption is what sparked the massive worldwide inflation that peaked in 2022.  It didn't really come back to pre-COVID levels until 2024.