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(04-13-2026, 07:29 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Rumor has it that China and/or North Korea has supplied Iran with nuclear ICBMs, but nobody knows for sure.
Does it stand to reason this would be the next step within the escalation of this war?
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/11/us/po...plies.html
"U.S. Intelligence Shows China Taking a More Active Role in Iran War
China may have shipped missiles to Iran, and Beijing is allowing some companies to sell Tehran supplies that can be used in military production, American officials said." (NY Times)
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"The U.S. Treasury has identified Bank Sepah as the financial hub for Iran's missile procurement network, facilitating purchases from China and North Korea. - Chinese President Xi Jinping has met with Iranian leadership, and sanctioned vessels have been tracked moving materials between China and Iran, but these shipments are not confirmed to be complete nuclear ICBMs" (LLM)
If that turns out to be true, that would be a huge misstep on their part to use them. Neither China or North Korea have ICBMS that can outrun the US detection and interception systems. (I believe Russia is the only country that has one that could even come close to beating our system. But I would not count on it)
And, on the other side of that coin, Iran does not posses the same type of detection and/or interception systems that would be capable of stopping a US launched ICBM.
Let's all hope this new leader in Iran is not stupid enough to play that game. We are all well aware that would be the end of everyone if it came to that, but this appears to me, to be no more than a "who's icbm is bigger" contest at this point.
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(04-13-2026, 07:50 AM)PorkChop96 Wrote: If that turns out to be true, that would be a huge misstep on their part to use them. Neither China or North Korea have ICBMS that can outrun the US detection and interception systems. (I believe Russia is the only country that has one that could even come close to beating our system. But I would not count on it)
And, on the other side of that coin, Iran does not posses the same type of detection and/or interception systems that would be capable of stopping a US launched ICBM.
Let's all hope this new leader in Iran is not stupid enough to play that game. We are all well aware that would be the end of everyone if it came to that, but this appears to me, to be no more than a "who's icbm is bigger" contest at this point.
Maybe this move, if true, is a psychological move to make the US citizens feel less safe in their beds and perhaps get them up and protesting these forever constant wars your government always falls back on when they fail to fix the economy and/or to tie up certain US military operations/resources/funds for a 'just in case' scenario, and/or to use as a deterrent to Israel using their nukes and/or to spur the US to put a short leash on that Zionist genocidal maniac.
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04-13-2026, 08:05 AM
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(04-13-2026, 01:10 AM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Maybe its like in the movie Rat Race where all the rich people care more about betting on absurd shit because they can.... and it can pay for the superyacht staff..
I swear there's insider trading reasons for almost every twisting Trump announcement.. maybe to buy off lesser influence.
He really has a habit of making abrupt declarations right before the open stock bell.. like almost telegraphed even.
Theres something "deal oriented" afoot and this is a different war with atypical players.
Like the BRICS country pushing us against Chinese interest in Iran, two other BRICS countries.
For all the comments theis being Israel's guard dog again, we sure are coordinating with the wishes of Riyadh and Abu Dhabi WAY MORE than Jerusalem.
@ Cherokeetoy
I'm glad that PLA post isnt verified, though it could be real, because China counter posturing with hypersonic missile at Trump's blockade is something I am going to guess isn't part of the 5 week plan...
And probably terrifying for everyone with deployed Navy loved ones.
No, China isn't setting up a blockade of the US blockade of Iran's blockade
China did warn the US, however, that they will be doing business as usual through the Strait and the US shouldn't interfere
That will be the real test
If Trump’s blockade stops a Chinese vessel, it will be automatic escalation
If the US doesn't stop a Chinese vessel, that will prove the blockade isn't real and Trump will look weak for failing to follow through, again
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(04-13-2026, 07:29 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Rumor has it that China and/or North Korea has supplied Iran with nuclear ICBMs, but nobody knows for sure.
Does it stand to reason this would be the next step within the escalation of this war?
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/11/us/po...plies.html
"U.S. Intelligence Shows China Taking a More Active Role in Iran War
China may have shipped missiles to Iran, and Beijing is allowing some companies to sell Tehran supplies that can be used in military production, American officials said." (NY Times)
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"The U.S. Treasury has identified Bank Sepah as the financial hub for Iran's missile procurement network, facilitating purchases from China and North Korea. - Chinese President Xi Jinping has met with Iranian leadership, and sanctioned vessels have been tracked moving materials between China and Iran, but these shipments are not confirmed to be complete nuclear ICBMs" (LLM)
Can't see the rumour being true myself but certainly worth keeping an eye on.
The rumour seems to be a misinterpretation of Chinese hypersonic missile shipments to Iran a couple of weeks back (known Chinese shadow fleet ships were allowed through the strait to dock in Iran and weren't oil tanker/mass container ship type) and other shipments planned prior to the war as anti-ship, anti-air and MANPAD defence systems.
China would stand little if anyrhing to gain by supplying Iran with nuke armed/capable ICBMS but would stand everything to lose; it would go against their 'long game' strategy IMHO and put them at risk of NATO strikes. NK would be a lot more likely to supply Iran with them but still unlikely/ AFAIK no NK shadow fleet ships have docked in Iran since the conflict and their shipping is a lot easier to monitor than China's. huge shipping volume.
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(04-13-2026, 07:56 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Maybe this move, if true, is a psychological move to make the US citizens feel less safe in their beds and perhaps get them up and protesting these forever constant wars your government always falls back on when they fail to fix the economy and/or to tie up certain US military operations/resources/funds for a 'just in case' scenario, and/or to use as a deterrent to Israel using their nukes and/or to spur the US to put a short leash on that Zionist genocidal maniac.
This move does little as a "psychological move" against the US people, we already have the fearmongering MSM to deal with that every other day of the year. Nuclear war has done little to rattle the US since the cold war ended back in 1991, it is a zero sum game that nobody wants to actually play.
As I said, this is a big game "who's ICBM is bigger", that will ultimately end the same way they all do....with nothing coming of it.
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04-13-2026, 09:31 AM
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04-13-2026, 10:36 AM
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(04-13-2026, 10:16 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/20437011...09753?s=20
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98.2% of drugs have stopped?
That would be the 98.2% from which country, certainly not through Mexico?
Anyway, I am reading that US satellite detected 16 Iranian submarines lying on the bottom of the Strait with engines turned off? I don't know if this is true or not, but I am also reading the other side of the story is that Iran has submarines that satellites cannot detect. So it hard to know what to believe.
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