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Trump says he bombed Iran
(04-12-2026, 03:53 PM)Vermilion Wrote: Our destroyers had zero issues cruising through there yesterday.

The Iranians told a different story….

US destroyer turns back from Hormuz Strait after warning, Iranian media reports
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2026-04-11/ne...4la/p.html

Why are the Iranians lying about it?

Because they don’t want the world to know it’s not really closed.

A destroyer is not a super tanker, you get that right?  Lol

Destroyer.

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Super Tanker.

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"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
Would not Trump's blockade of the Strait put the US in direct potential conflict with, among others, China?

China receives much of its oil through that strait. They will not take kindly to the US attempting to shut down that source.

And China can hit, and hurt, the US much more effectively than Iran is able to.


In fact, shouldn't Trump realize that he will be forced to "TACO" his blockade within the same three to four week limit that was claimed when Iran initially closed the Strait?

The global economy, it was said, could not tolerate an extended blockade of Hormuz without initiating a worldwide economic collapse..


Iran can ride out the next few weeks to month with relative ease...they are already on isolated.

The rest of the world,  not so much. And that will put a lot of pressure on Trump to back off.
(04-12-2026, 01:22 PM)Astyanax Wrote: The invitation to present your considered  analysis of the situation. Your reading of the state of the war.

Your meaningful contribution to the thread so far has been rather slight, you see. Tediously repetitive, too. 

Aren't you going to post the meme? I mean, come on – at least you have that...

I post what I want to post.

I've done the explaining opposing viewpoints to Liberals thing ad nauseam and I've had more productive conversations with my dogs.

I've found that most TDS sufferers usually can't have a regular conversation, so why bother?
(04-12-2026, 03:48 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Navy destroyers. LoL

There is speculation that they turned back around. 

But pray tell, how much crude oil do Navy destroyers ferry around the globe?

So if Trump could just give all the tankers, a destroyer escort im sure everything will be tickety-boo in the Strait. 

https://www.mexc.co/en-PH/news/1021837


They’ve been threatening to sink a Navy ship.
Hell, they’ve claimed to have sank the Lincoln a dozen times LoL.

Two destroyers turned their transponders on and cruised through there easy peasy and Iran didn’t do shit.
https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/two-u-s...z-87d3acc5

It’s not the US job to provide bitch ass countries an armed escort.

Enjoy paying through the nose for petrol and heating oil.
Trump and the US aren’t to blame for it.

Hope you have plenty of bicycles and blankets.
(04-12-2026, 03:55 PM)andy06shake Wrote: A destroyer is not a super tanker, you get that right?  Lol

Destroyer.

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Super Tanker.

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That’s AI.
Our destroyers have middle fingers painted on the front.

Are you telling us the Iranians will only attack oil tankers?
(04-12-2026, 03:50 PM)andy06shake Wrote: After helping to close the place down due to his war for Israel, you mean? 

I think we can clearly all see what Trump's accomplished...

You do realize that Iran is funding the Houthis, right?….and they’ve been funding most all of the terrorist orgs in the region which has not only attacked Israel but America personnel and bases.  
This isn’t just about fighting Israel’s war as you’re trying to paint it. It’s also a substantial security threat to us and others if they continue their nuclear ambitions.     

Israel is one of our closest allies, of course we’re going to help them defend against attacks.  There’s many facets and reasons for this military operation, it’s not just about Israel.
Apparently I’m in cult now, someone here told me so.  
(04-12-2026, 04:03 PM)Vermilion Wrote: They’ve been threatening to sink a Navy ship.
Hell, they’ve claimed to have sank the Lincoln a dozen times LoL.

Two destroyers turned their transponders on and cruised through there easy peasy and Iran didn’t do shit.
https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/two-u-s...z-87d3acc5

It’s not the US job to provide bitch ass countries an armed escort.

Enjoy paying through the nose for petrol and heating oil.
Trump and the US aren’t to blame for it.

Hope you have plenty of bicycles and blankets.

Speaking of bicycles, that's about how fast a super tanker goes, with no drone or missile defense much less a wide variety of detection. 

I think the hubris laughing at allies is exactly why they aren't going to help. We shat on them before all of this even started, putting more tariffs on some of them than adversaries... When some of that wasn't even "reciprocal" but rather because they had VAT and barriers to entry like not accepting all types of goods (we do that with vehicles and other things for regulation). 

It's truly sad to see so many people laugh at those allies misfortune after all of this while celebrating fighting the wars of the Middle East, who hasn't ever sent a soldier to fight along side ours... Even in the wars we fight there.
(04-12-2026, 04:03 PM)Vermilion Wrote: They’ve been threatening to sink a Navy ship.
Hell, they’ve claimed to have sank the Lincoln a dozen times LoL.

Two destroyers turned their transponders on and cruised through there easy peasy and Iran didn’t do shit.
https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/two-u-s...z-87d3acc5

It’s not the US job to provide bitch ass countries an armed escort.

Enjoy paying through the nose for petrol and heating oil.
Trump and the US aren’t to blame for it.

Hope you have plenty of bicycles and blankets.

You hope in one claw and c#ap in the other, see which one fills up first for you.

Again, a destroyer is not a super tanker.

And why did they turn off their transponders if they had nothing to worry about? 

It's the US job to do whatever Trump says.

And when he says jump, you ask how high...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(04-12-2026, 04:06 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: You do realize that Iran is funding the Houthis, right?….and they’ve been funding most all of the terrorist orgs in the region which has not only attacked Israel but America personnel and bases.  
This isn’t just about fighting Israel’s war as you’re trying to paint it. It’s also a substantial security threat to us and others if they continue their nuclear ambitions.     

Israel is one of our closest allies, of course we’re going to help them defend against attacks.  There’s many facets and reasons for this military operation, it’s not just about Israel.

It's more complicated than that, Krusty

Yes, Iran has supported groups like the Houthis and others in the "axis of resistance."

But saying they fund "most all terrorist organisations" is a bit of an overstatement.

The Houthis are primarily a Yemeni civil war actor.

They receive Iranian support, but they are not a fully controlled proxy.

And on your nuclear point, US intelligence assessments have repeatedly said Iran has not been actively building a nuclear weapon, even if enrichment is a concern.

So framing it as a single coordinated master plan flattens a messy, multi-cause regional conflict.

And yes, Israel is a close US ally, but it's still a state with its own strategic interests.

And its military operations across Gaza, Lebanon, and Syria, which have been widely criticised for civilian harm.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(04-12-2026, 03:34 PM)andy06shake Wrote: It's a major cost-of-living issue.

And some poor sods are forced to choose between keeping the lights and heating on, or being able to purchase food. 

And its a problem for millions of households that fall into the category.

Literally, people in low-paid employment are being forced to use the likes of food banks to survive.

It was worse around 2022, but still a serious concern.

There is a cap now, but it's more like a speed limit on prices, not a ceiling on what you pay.


You guys pay on average double what we pay in the U.S. on average and thats saying the U.S. pays $0.17 kwh on average and I think most Americans would agree our energy is much cheaper than 17 cent per kwh on average so in some cases the UK is paying triple, was this a problem before Iran as well? Im sure the conflict isn't helping but I had not considered the energy struggle in Europe was what it was already.

According to the house of commons:The UK’s energy crisis began in autumn 2021 and continues to affect households and businesses today. It was primarily triggered by a surge in wholesale gas prices, exacerbated by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in 2022, and is deepened by the UK's high reliance on gas for electricity generation. I think I can see your side of it much more clearly now. The U.S. has a surplus and our net exporter for gas is no where near what we intake for energy. This conflict will add to your strangulation. No wonder you guys are against everything the conflicts of the world are killing yall. Thats nuts. Idk what to say lol



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