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(04-12-2026, 01:34 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: FWIW I was only addressing you with your text I enclosed in the box, not all of your post. It was actually more directed to others here. Peace
Lol, if you don't want to include someone in a point you're making, I suggest not using "you all", "y'all", ect.
It doesn't make a difference though brother. We're all just internet strangers. It doesn't bother me if people try to emphasize their points by being hyperbolic and calling people names. People just get used to doing that because the internet is anonymous, so people can just act however they'd like. I think that is bleeding into real life because people are so used to speaking in extremes unfortunately.
There are plenty of reasons why someone would be skeptical of how successful this war is going. I remember in the beginning of March the skeptics were being clowned because some said this would be over in days. I've seen some of those same members say we are ahead of schedule in the past week or two. How do we go from we're going to win in days to we're ahead of schedule a month in?
Or how about saying we don't care about the strait, it will open naturally, and we have completed our objectives, so we're leaving in 2-3 weeks. I bet that doesn't happen.
But many would have us believe you must be hysterical to question anything but the official narrative from the government right now. Even though we've seen similar things happen like at the beginning of the Iraq war where we declared victory only to get bogged down for years to come.
Iran is no utopia, but I disagree with many that they were our top security threat. Burning through all our advanced munitions that take years to replace seems short sighted and possibly risky should a real peer power do something while we're back to rebuilding. That's not even looking at the debt crisis that is still worsening.
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04-12-2026, 01:53 PM
This post was last modified: 04-12-2026, 01:54 PM by Bush Master. 
(04-12-2026, 12:25 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: [Image: https://i.imgur.com/KhWTDrv.jpeg]
I noticed how people rush to "figure everything out", right meow!
In no way is the quickest answer the best one. Like kiddies in the classroom, all raising their hands before the teacher finishes the question.
The logical method is to wait and gather more info until a response is compelled. The Art of War method is to let things play out, until an opportunity presents itself. The Liberal method is to cower in fear, then appease the villain, hoping they still like you when it's over.... all failing, just scream at the sky until someone appeases YOU.
That's not gonna happen.
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(04-12-2026, 03:47 AM)Astyanax Wrote: Nope. But he did overstay his welcome in Moscow, and the Russians craftily let him.
Maybe Field-Marshal Kutuzov had also read Napoleon's famous saying.
What point are you trying to make, anyway? That Napoleon is a cuck because his Grande Armée was vanquished by the Russian winter on the way home? Try telling that to any staff-level officer in any military, anywhere in the world, and see what response you get.
I was obviously pointing out the irony of his words. Im more of a fan of rommel anyway the "desert fox" and most "staff level military officers" I know are as well, we call them NCOs and COs in the states. I didn't call him a cuck I just thought it was funny he said that and then that happened. I am sure he said many other things he wished you'd remember him by. Glad you draw inspiration from it though.
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(04-12-2026, 07:15 AM)Creaky Wrote: They don’t want their country turned into Libya.
Why would they want a mess like that?
Can you elaborate on turned into Libya? Im curious
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(04-12-2026, 08:44 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Scott Bessent has taken credit for engineering a deliberate dollar shortage to trigger the collapse of the Iranian rial, causing widespread anti-government protests
Bessent described this strategy as "economic statecraft" resulting in severe economic turmoil, including the collapse of major banks and a rapid rise in inflation
Mossad and CIA then sent agents and unsuccessfully attempted to arm the Kurds hoping to instigate widespread revolt
They ignited riots and other acts of rebellion which lead to the murder, mass arrests and executions of thousands of Iranians
Iranians pleaded Trump for help, Trump stated "help is on the way!"
Then he did absolutely nothing
He passively sat back and watched as Iranians were slaughtered
There are MAGA members posting in this thread who claimed "any day now, the people will rise up. There will be civil war in Iran. They will topple the regime. All they needed was a little push"
That was a month ago
And now Trump is trying to build a peace agreement with the evil regime hoping it will lead to a joint venture to split the tolls in the Strait of Hormuz
Trump is willing to become a business partner with the same people who chant "Death to America" and sponsor terrorism
Trump has not mentioned the Iranian people nor directly addressed them since his initial speech the beginning of this war
Dollar shortage would only increase its value wouldn't it? Printing more is what decreases it albeit probably not the only thing that does. I see I took dollar shortage too literally. You are talking about the rial being shorted? Either way, wouldn't that increase its value then the same way the USD would?
Check this out
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/2...y%20Sunday.
https://nypost.com/2026/01/14/business/h...ts-report/
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"UK will not be involved in Trump’s blockade of Strait of Hormuz - as peace talks in Pakistan end without a deal."
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/strait-of-...VVI6mlaleA
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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04-12-2026, 02:30 PM
This post was last modified: 04-12-2026, 02:36 PM by KrustyKrab. 
(04-12-2026, 01:49 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Lol, if you don't want to include someone in a point you're making, I suggest not using "you all", "y'all", ect.
It doesn't make a difference though brother. We're all just internet strangers. It doesn't bother me if people try to emphasize their points by being hyperbolic and calling people names. People just get used to doing that because the internet is anonymous, so people can just act however they'd like. I think that is bleeding into real life because people are so used to speaking in extremes unfortunately.
There are plenty of reasons why someone would be skeptical of how successful this war is going. I remember in the beginning of March the skeptics were being clowned because some said this would be over in days. I've seen some of those same members say we are ahead of schedule in the past week or two. How do we go from we're going to win in days to we're ahead of schedule a month in?
Or how about saying we don't care about the strait, it will open naturally, and we have completed our objectives, so we're leaving in 2-3 weeks. I bet that doesn't happen.
But many would have us believe you must be hysterical to question anything but the official narrative from the government right now. Even though we've seen similar things happen like at the beginning of the Iraq war where we declared victory only to get bogged down for years to come.
Iran is no utopia, but I disagree with many that they were our top security threat. Burning through all our advanced munitions that take years to replace seems short sighted and possibly risky should a real peer power do something while we're back to rebuilding. That's not even looking at the debt crisis that is still worsening.
Show me in that post where I called you a derogatory name…. I merely stated an observation and opinion of the amount of pure BS being spewed by some people that think they know WTF but don’t.
Some here (not you) think they’re the smartest Fauker in the room and intellectually superior to anyone that leans right. I’ll refrain from saying what I think of this person to keep the peace.
Sorry I didn’t differentiated my post better, I’ll try and do better in the future. I’ve had to trash a lot of post here trying to post to different people in one post, I even started a thread on it, some were having the same problem. Maybe it’s been fixed IDK.
Apparently I’m in cult now, someone here told me so.
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(04-12-2026, 02:24 PM)andy06shake Wrote: "UK will not be involved in Trump’s blockade of Strait of Hormuz - as peace talks in Pakistan end without a deal."
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/strait-of-...VVI6mlaleA
Of course Starmer’s against it even though it would benefit the UK to have it open free of threat and toll. Ughh.
As far as Trumps intentions, a little reading between the lines is recommended. He’s saying he wants it open to international travel without a toll, that’s what he’s trying to accomplish.
Why in the world would anyone have issue with that?
Maybe the UK can import and export through a different route?
Nope, they’ll take full advantage of the groundwork we laid without doing anything to make it happen.
“A Government spokesperson said: “We continue to support freedom of navigation and the opening of the Strait of Hormuz, which is urgently needed to support the global economy and the cost of living back home.
“The Strait of Hormuz must not be subject to tolling.
“We are urgently working with France and other partners to put together a wide coalition to protect freedom of navigation.”
Apparently I’m in cult now, someone here told me so.
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(04-12-2026, 03:13 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: Of course Starmer’s against it even though it would benefit the UK to have it open free of threat and toll. Ughh.
As far as Trumps intentions, a little reading between the lines is recommended. He’s saying he wants it open to international travel without a toll, that’s what he’s trying to accomplish.
Why in the world would anyone have issue with that?
Maybe the UK can import and export through a different route?
Nope, they’ll take full advantage of the groundwork we laid without doing anything to make it happen.
“A Government spokesperson said: “We continue to support freedom of navigation and the opening of the Strait of Hormuz, which is urgently needed to support the global economy and the cost of living back home.
“The Strait of Hormuz must not be subject to tolling.
“We are urgently working with France and other partners to put together a wide coalition to protect freedom of navigation.”
Keir Starmer isn't "against free trade."
He's against an escalation that could destabilise the region even further.
And spike U.K energy prices even more.
If you stayed here, you may comprehend just how much of an issue that is right now.
And a U.S blockade isn't neutral policing.
It's an act of force and aggression that risks retaliation from Iran.
Also, "no tolls" isn't the real issue, control is...
The Strait of Hormuz stays open largely because multiple powers avoid triggering conflict, not because one power enforces it.
And the UK isn't freeloading.
It's avoiding being dragged into another expensive, high-risk confrontation.
You don't want or require our help.
If in doubt, see the horrible things your POTUS says about our nation and armed forces.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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