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04-08-2026, 04:24 PM
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(04-08-2026, 03:24 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: FF, I can't believe you actually believe the drivel these clowns are still pushing after every little bit of news that comes out of the ME. I'm looking at what is going on.
Iran is blown to hell but they now control the Strait.
They have it. They know it. They will use it.
It's what I'd do if I were in their shoes.
Quote:Without a doubt, Trump is an arrogant, loud mouthed carnival barker but to believe that Iran has the upper hand or really any leverage whatsoever, is a Liberal fantasyland dream. I'm not a liberal.
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(04-08-2026, 04:08 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Meanwhile the cease fire seems to be falling apart.....
I read there is no formal agreement.
Each country is doing their own thing.
It’s a mess.
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(04-08-2026, 04:24 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: I'm looking at what is going on.
Iran is blown to hell but they now control the Strait.
They have it. They know it. They will use it.
It's what I'd do if I were in their shoes.
I'm not a liberal.
The Bible warns that the end times will be characterised by intense spiritual deception with false prophets and teachers performing signs to mislead many, even the "elect" if possible.
I've not been religious in many years, but ffs, you have to stop and ponder.
I mean, not for a long time, but for a little while...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(04-08-2026, 04:26 PM)ANNEE Wrote: I read there is no formal agreement.
Each country is doing their own thing.
It’s a mess.
Indeed. The Master of the Art of the Deal has fucked up.
It's a mess.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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04-08-2026, 04:53 PM
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(04-08-2026, 12:53 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: I think this will all work out so long as Marco Rubio (or whoever) keeps drafting the mediator's statements for them.
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No, he always refers to himself in the third person. But then forgets he does that and neglects to remove it from the post. 
Good thing one of the Sunni monarch Gulf States didn’t write it.
Al Bakistani, with some sincerity, request the Filthy Shia Muslim Dogs reopen the Strait of Hormuz now, or we WILL let The USA and Israel completely destroy you.
Seriously, did you see where one of the Pakistani requests for dialogue to be based on and with respect, and not wild proclamations?
Makes me wonder who said what. Trump maybe...
21st century negotiates with the 18th century
Let's face it Iran's trying thier absolute best to save face, If Iran did to the US what the US has done to Iran would be considered a complete and total victory, LOL half the world thinks Iran won. Seriously, how does one discuss anything from that point of view
Somehow, I don't think humanity is mature enough to be able to see every word in every communication between countries in real time, especially during wartime.
Some personalities can handle it, and some can not. It might be generational
Maybe it's because they grew up during Vietnam, and with 4 channels, if we were watching TV, it was watching the news, and the news covered Vietnam a lot. But the media was competent and we got the news from 3 homogeneous sources regular intervals throughout the day. Now it's a 24-hour smorgasbord, we got quantity but quality?.
Besides, it's where Iran is 30 days 60 days, 90 days out
Even 1-2 years from now.
Never goes well viewing in real time, watching the inevitable blood destruction and chaos.
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart
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(04-08-2026, 04:56 PM)putnam6 Wrote: ...LOL half the world thinks Iran won. Seriously, how does one discuss anything from that point of view I"m not a liberal.
To me it looks like Iran won.
We blew their Airforce and Navy to hell.
But they took the Strait hostage.
And the world can't handle it.
And the world does nothing to stop Iran.
Now when Israel protects itself from Hezbollah,
Iran says they'll close the Strait ...
And the world will side with Iran because they can't handle it.
Iran won.
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(04-08-2026, 04:29 PM)andy06shake Wrote: The Bible warns that the end times will be characterised by intense spiritual deception with false prophets and teachers performing signs to mislead many, even the "elect" if possible.
I've not been religious in many years, but ffs, you have to stop and ponder.
I mean, not for a long time, but for a little while...  If you are talking about Trump being a false prophet ....
I don't think so.
Most of the planet hates him.
and a good share of those who voted for him only did so
because what the Democrats put forward was even worse.
He's just another piece of crap politician like the rest of 'em.
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04-08-2026, 05:20 PM
This post was last modified: 04-08-2026, 05:22 PM by putnam6. 
(04-08-2026, 05:03 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: I"m not a liberal.
To me it looks like Iran won.
We blew their Airforce and Navy to hell.
But they took the Strait hostage.
And the world can't handle it.
And the world does nothing to stop Iran.
Now when Israel protects itself from Hezbollah,
Iran says they'll close the Strait ...
And the world will side with Iran because they can't handle it.
Iran won.
Where did I say, suggest or imply you were a liberal?
It ain't over yet FF
I'm not as smart as you, but Im smart enough to know it ain't worth arguing with you about either.
What did you expect 40 days out? flip a switch, and it's a brand new day, and the Joos and the Ayatollahs hold hands singing "If I were a Rich Man?"
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart
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(04-08-2026, 05:20 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Where did I say, suggest or imply you were a liberal?
Nowhere.
I'm just making sure that's clear.
Liberals all hate Trump no matter what.
And they'd say we lost even if we won.
I"m stating that I'm not a liberal and I say that Iran has won.
Just pointing it out ... my opinion isn't because of partisan bias.
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