Trump says he bombed Iran

[andy06shake]

Iran's demands are extreme and completely inconsistent with anything a country in their position could possibly demand.

The leverage is all in Trump's hands, either Iran will acquiesce to accepting to only a fraction of what they are "demanding" or he might make e good on the threat of taking them out completely. 

He is going to give Iran the off ramp to accept the invitation to join the world's community of peaceful nations and stop with the terrorism support that has plagued the Middle East for countless years.

I believe he will also offer the USA's help to rebuild should Iran accept a 100% peaceful solution.

Somewhat wishfully think on your own part through.

Iran's "demands" aren't just arbitrary RazorV66.

They're about security, their economy, and sovereignty.

Not some negotiable whim.

And suggesting Trump has total leverage is naive at best.

More military action will simply destabilise the region even more, and likely backfire.

Causes more problems and increases the cost of oil.

Rebuilding Iran in exchange for abandoning decades of foreign policy and influence isn't realistic either.

It's not a simple trade.

Peaceful solutions require mutual concessions, not ultimatums.

[Kurokage]

Iran's demands are extreme and completely inconsistent with anything a country in their position could possibly demand.

You seem to be forgetting that Iran still holds the straits to ransom.
If Iran's demands are extreme, this cease fire will fall over very soon when Iran demands their fee for allowing passage along the straits. America still isn't allowed to sail it's military through, so is still stuck and not able to escort any vessels.

[CriticalStinker]

Yesterday, he was genociding Iran and Oil will be $250 a barrel

Was DI's barrel of monkey bullshit?

No one got this 100% right.

I remember when you said early on that Reza Pahlavi would take power, and that the strait would open soon.

I think it’s good we took the off ramp while we still had one. I’m willing to say I was happily wrong that happened, and I truly hope that holds.

[CriticalStinker]

Isreal will always be the wild card and Iran is stupid for thinking they can make any demand like that when every country around Isreal helps the terrorists that want to destroy Isreal.

Either Iran accepts Trump's proposals or FAFO.

I think it’s more likely Israel accepts the agreement we did or they get cut off.

Theres a reason they didn’t get a seat at the table. We went to bat for them and we’re done. We don’t owe Israel any demands.

[quintessentone]

I think it’s more likely Israel accepts the agreement we did or they get cut off.

Theres a reason they didn’t get a seat at the table. We went to bat for them and we’re done. We don’t owe Israel any demands.

Do you really think the Trump administration won't keep supplying Israel with the tools of expansionist illegal wars to appease them or whatever the reasons may be and just not show up with their air power any more, or to not provide Israel with the means to do so on their own?

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"Yes, the United States is continuing to provide extensive military aid to Israel, with at least $21.7 billion in military assistance delivered since the start of the Gaza war on October 7, 2023.  This funding includes $3.8 billion annually under the current 10-year Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) that runs through 2028, covering Foreign Military Financing (FMF), missile defense programs like Iron Dome, and strategic stockpile replenishments"

https://quincyinst.org/research/u-s-mili...mber-2025/

Will 2028 be the year that Lebanon, Syria and what other country will be annexed/apartheid to Israel's satisfaction?

[putnam6]

Isreal will always be the wild card and Iran is stupid for thinking they can make any demand like that when every country around Isreal helps the terrorists that want to destroy Isreal.

Either Iran accepts Trump's proposals or FAFO.

Exactly, Iran's wild proposals and proclamations have no weight.

The pause was to ease into China talks about oil and LNG, diplomacy through commerce.

China could and likely has complained the US put them in a stranglehold on thier Venezuela and now Iran
revenue streams.

Did China push for the ceasefire in Iran


Yes, China actively pushed for the ceasefire in the recent US-Iran conflict (part of the broader 2026 Iran war involving Israel and strikes on Iranian targets). While Pakistan served as the primary public mediator—hosting talks in Islamabad and helping broker a two-week ceasefire agreement announced around April 7-8, 2026—China played a significant behind-the-scenes and diplomatic role in encouraging Iran to negotiate and accept the deal.

theweek.in

Key Evidence of China's InvolvementJoint initiative with Pakistan: On March 31, 2026, China and Pakistan issued a five-point peace plan calling for an immediate ceasefire, the start of negotiations, protection of civilians and infrastructure, and reopening normal navigation through the Strait of Hormuz (a critical energy chokepoint disrupted by the conflict). This followed high-level talks in Beijing between Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi and Pakistan's foreign minister. China framed this as part of "new efforts towards advocating for peace."

axios.com

Direct encouragement to Iran: According to reports citing officials (including AP sources), Chinese officials contacted Iranian counterparts to urge flexibility and a path toward a ceasefire as negotiations intensified. Beijing worked through intermediaries like Pakistan, Turkey, and Egypt to leverage its influence as Iran's major trade partner. The New York Times and other outlets noted China's role in convincing Iran to agree to the Pakistan-brokered two-week pause.

en.wikipedia.org

Trump's comments: US President Donald Trump publicly suggested that China helped push Iran toward the negotiating table and the ceasefire deal.

news.sky.com

Broader diplomatic push: Throughout the conflict, China repeatedly called for an immediate ceasefire, condemned US/Israeli strikes as violations of international law, made multiple phone calls to parties involved (including Iran, Gulf states, and others), and opposed certain UN measures seen as pressuring Iran (e.g., vetoing a resolution on protecting shipping in the Strait of Hormuz alongside Russia). China positioned itself as a peacemaker, emphasizing dialogue, sovereignty, and economic stability (given its heavy reliance on Gulf energy imports).

bbc.com

Context and MotivationsChina's actions aligned with its interests: avoiding prolonged disruption to global oil supplies and shipping (which spiked prices and threatened its economy), maintaining ties with Iran without direct military entanglement, and expanding its diplomatic footprint in the Middle East (building on its 2023 Saudi-Iran rapprochement). Beijing avoided overt military support for Iran and focused on rhetoric favoring de-escalation.

bloomberg.com

The ceasefire is temporary (two weeks) to allow further talks, with Iran agreeing to safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz in exchange for a halt in attacks. It remains fragile, and the US appeared somewhat skeptical of China's broader mediation ambitions.In short, China did not lead the final brokering (Pakistan did), but it did push diplomatically—both publicly through proposals and privately by influencing Iran—which contributed to the deal. This fits China's pattern of "peacemaker" diplomacy in regional conflicts where it has economic stakes.

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 BREAKING: JD Vance says conservatives should stop BLACK-PILLING, and he nailed it

"Blackpilling is how you give power to the forces that are trying to DESTROY what our ancestors built."

"They say, 'that's not what we voted for. We're going to check out of politics.' No! That's the exact wrong response." "If we do something you don't like, the response should be to get MORE involved, to make your voice HEARD, and to try to push things in the direction that you want them to be pushed." "Our civilization was not built overnight! It's not going to be saved overnight." Truth! "What I'd encourage you to do is stay involved, be patient, and don't let disappointment turn to checking out of the system entirely." "There's way too much of that, I would say, in the Anglo system and the American system. There's way too much, 'I didn't like this thing that the vice president said, or I didn't like this thing that the president did, and I'm going to completely check out.' We call that blackpilling in the United States of America." "We need to take power back from those people and build the kind of institutions that can actually save our societies." "It will not happen overnight. It will not happen in the term of one prime minister or one president, but it will happen so long as we keep our faith in God and we work hard to achieve it. That's what we have to do."

[Kurokage]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news...e-36978871

Iran war LIVE: Ceasefire on the brink as Israel hits Lebanon and UAE attackedDonald Trump last night announced a last-minute two-week ceasefire had been agreed with Iran - but Israel is still launching strikes on Lebanon, while the UAE and Kuwait have been attacked
Iran 'considering response to Israeli attacks on Lebanon'An Iranian military source told Iran's Fars new agency: "Following the continued violation of the temporary ceasefire by the Zionist regime against Lebanon and the country's Islamic Resistance, Iran is finalising preparations to carry out a deterrent operation against Israeli military positions in the occupied territories."
The source said Iranian officials feel as if the US is either unable to control Netanyahu or that CENTCOM has issued a 'free-hand order' to Israel.
Strait of Hormuz will not open if the Israeli attacks in Lebanon continue - HezbollahHezbollah sources have said the Strait of Hormuz will not open if Israel continues to attack Lebanon, according to reports.

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EXCLUSIVE-Sources close to Hezbollah tell
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the Strait of Hormuz will not open if the Israeli attacks in Lebanon continue. A wave of strikes in the past hours killed and injured hundreds. One of Iran’s main conditions for a ceasefire is an end to all attacks including on Lebanon.

[Kurokage]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/do...e-36984543
 

The art of the woeful deal: Trump’s two-week ceasefire as stable as a house of cards'

Trump’s self-proclaimed dealmaking ends in a peace plan that appears to hand Iran major concessions, exposing a blustering strongman who threatens big but ultimately folds

The most generous interpretation of the peace framework embraced by Donald Trump is that it reflects confusion.
The less generous, and far more plausible, interpretation is that it is a capitulation by a man who never stops boasting he is the world’s greatest dealmaker, yet keeps producing deals that look suspiciously like losses. After weeks of threats, boasts and military escalation, Trump now appears to be embracing a ten-point plan originating from Iran that hands Tehran precisely what it sought before the crisis even began.

Today, he would have woken up salivating at the thought of hero headlines. What he got were increasing calls for his removal from office and a White House hurriedly fighting its latest damage limitation exercise to stop his savaging.

Sanctions relief. Confusion over enrichment. Preservation of missile and drone capabilities. And, most astonishingly, effective leverage over the Strait of Hormuz - one of the most strategically vital waterways on the planet. For a president who built his political mythology on “winning,” this looks remarkably like a catastrophic loss, and there is little wonder why lawmakers are saying the 25th Amendment should be invoked to remove him from office.

And already, within hours, cracks are showing. Missile and drone attacks were reported across the Middle East in the early hours of Wednesday, underlining just how fragile any pause really is. These are not the signs of a durable peace. They are the signs of a temporary lull, at best, in a region where escalation can resume in minutes.

 
More dangerously still, Israel has made clear its military operations will continue in Lebanon. That matters enormously. Because a ceasefire that does not extend to Lebanon is not a comprehensive ceasefire at all. It is a partial arrangement with built-in instability.
If fighting continues between Israel and Hezbollah, the risk of spilling over remains high. Iran’s regional allies remain engaged. Retaliation squads remain intact. The underlying drivers of conflict remain unresolved.
In other words, the entire process could unravel almost immediately. This is the problem with grand declarations built on such flimsy foundations. Trump announces “world peace,” but the region hears something very different: a temporary pause, limited in scope, dependent on goodwill, and vulnerable to actors who were never fully part of the agreement.