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(04-08-2026, 06:54 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Trump folded.   Iran won.

Iran held the Strait hostage, and Trump held back and Europe/Gulf States didn't engage.

Iran won.

The thing is, geography beat him...

"Won" is relative all the same.

It's not quite game over just yet.

And im sure Trump still has a few quarters to feed the machine...

Got to hope for the best, really.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(04-08-2026, 06:47 AM)Roma Wrote: Did you REALLY think he would destroy a whole civilization?
 

He will pivot to the mid-terms.

Might be?  I think it's a question of when not if.

Who knows what to think with the man?

Those words sounded like im apt to chick a nuke at downtown Tehran if i don't get what i want.

I never thought he would start a war in Iran, Roma, and yet that happened...

I think this is still an ongoing situation, as to whatever else, im honestly not sure anymore...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(04-08-2026, 06:58 AM)andy06shake Wrote: And im sure Trump still has a few quarters to feed the machine...

When it comes to Iran I think Trump is out of quarters.   Bankrupt in fact.

He destroyed their airforce and navy and still lost.    Europe refused to engage even though Irans missiles can hit them.  The Gulf states came down on Americas side but refused to engage even though Iran bombed them.   Iran took control of international waters and still controls them.   Trump can't use nuclear weapons and has nothing left to hit Iran with that is new or different or that could change things.   

Both sides will claim victory.   But reality is both sides got beat up.   The fact that Iran remained standing against America means they won.
Crypto Rover
@cryptorover
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BREAKING:

Oman’s transport minister says signed maritime agreements mean NO FEES will be charged for passage through Hormuz Strait.

Huge news!


Quote:@cryptorover
shares verified news: Oman's Transport Minister confirms signed international maritime agreements prohibit any fees for ships transiting the Strait of Hormuz.
The statement directly counters Iran's recent ceasefire demands for joint tolls with Oman on vessels, intended as war reparations, amid a two-week Iran-US pause in hostilities.
The strategic waterway, shown in the attached map, handles about 20% of global oil trade; Oman's position supports free passage norms and could ease energy market volatility.
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
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Are they correct who knows?

Sounds more connected than anybody here


Daniel Lacalle
@dlacalle_IA
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#Iran

The key factors that led to the ceasefire, including what some are not telling you:

- The hardline faction of the regime accused the Foreign Minister and other officials of being traitors for calling for an end to the war.

- Iran’s president accused the Revolutionary Guard of sabotaging the chances of a ceasefire.

- The elimination of Majid Khademi, head of intelligence for the Revolutionary Guard, was confirmed. This brought the total to 250 regime officials and leaders eliminated, in addition to the disappearance without any news of the “new” Supreme Leader—who may be ill or dead.

- Iran’s nuclear infrastructure has been largely demolished, and its military and naval capabilities have been mostly destroyed.

- The United States was able to insert dozens of aircraft into #Iran and establish a temporary base to rescue a pilot. The operation involved nearly 100 special forces members plus several dozen fighter jets and helicopters. This was clear evidence of the regime’s military weakness.

- President Trump issued an aggressive ultimatum with the aim of forcing a ceasefire and exposing the factions within the regime that no longer hold real power.

In his Truth Social post, Trump speaks of a “wonderful” regime change:
“However, now that we have complete and total regime change, where different, smarter, and less radicalized minds will prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen. WHO KNOWS? We will find out tonight, one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the world.”

- A source from the Iranian regime claimed on state TV that they had broken off all talks with the US. Obviously, this was false.

- Trump announces a conditional ceasefire, and the Iranian regime accepts.

Trump states that he “surpassed" all military objectives; he is opening a ceasefire.

He does not say he accepts Iran’s ten points at face value. He explicitly says they are “a workable basis for negotiation” and are subject to the full and free reopening of the Strait of Hormuz.

“We received a 10-point proposal from Iran and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all of the various points of past contention have already been agreed between the United States and Iran (referring to the new regime), but a two-week period will allow the agreement to be finalized and consummated.”

No. Iran is not charging fees for ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz, nor, of course, in yuan.

Trump declared that the free flow through the Strait must be part of any peace deal with Iran.
The United Arab Emirates stated that this waterway “cannot be held hostage by any country” and that free navigation must be part of any resolution to the conflict.
Qatar’s Foreign Ministry pointed out that all countries in the region have the right to use the Strait freely.
The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) clearly states that countries bordering straits cannot demand payment simply for allowing passage through them.

No, the United States is not accepting Iran’s nuclear program remaining intact. In fact, it has demolished Iran’s nuclear infrastructure.

. Natanz, the main uranium enrichment plant with underground facilities, is 95% destroyed.
. Fordow (the underground enrichment plant) was demolished using bunker-buster bombs.
. Isfahan: Destroyed.
. Arak (heavy water complex): severely damaged.
. Ardakan (uranium concentrate production plant): completely bombed.
. Bushehr (Iran’s only operating nuclear power plant): bombed four times.

And, of course, two weeks of continued military pressure and negotiations.



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David Albright
@DAVIDHALBRIGHT1
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Iran’s first of its 10 point plan in English: A binding guarantee that the U.S. and allies will not strike Iran again

But in Iran’s Farsi version, a key phrase is tacked onto its first point namely the acceptance of Iran’s uranium enrichment.

So, Iran’s English version of its 10 point plan makes no mention of nuclear, but its Farsi version, likely approved by the leadership, reiterates the same unacceptable enrichment condition.

On the other hand, US first four points

1. Dismantle all major nuclear facilities
2. End all uranium enrichment on Iranian soil
3. Transfer enriched uranium stockpiles out of Iran
4. Accept intrusive international inspections everywhere

These will be tough negotiations, made even harder by Iran’s other non-starter demands. The ceasefire may only be a brief interlude between military conflicts.
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
[Image: PEART-2744335652.gif]

 
(04-08-2026, 07:04 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: When it comes to Iran I think Trump is out of quarters.   Bankrupt in fact.

He destroyed their airforce and navy and still lost.    Europe refused to engage even though Irans missiles can hit them.  The Gulf states came down on Americas side but refused to engage even though Iran bombed them.   Iran took control of international waters and still controls them.   Trump can't use nuclear weapons and has nothing left to hit Iran with that is new or different or that could change things.   

Both sides will claim victory.   But reality is both sides got beat up.   The fact that Iran remained standing against America means they won.

Again, geography wins. 

And i do not disagree...

Aside from the quarters part.

I think he may still have one or two in a jacket pocket somewhere.

But im apt to ponder it might be better if he cannot find them...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(04-08-2026, 07:09 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Crypto Rover
@cryptorover
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BREAKING:

Oman’s transport minister says signed maritime agreements mean NO FEES will be charged for passage through Hormuz Strait.

Huge news!

It appears the fees will remain in place for certain countries and free passage to others depending on different factors and to pay for Iran's post-war reconstruction, unless the US wants to pay that tab with US and Israeli (Gulf countries too?) taxpayer money (?)

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"Under a proposed two-week ceasefire agreement between the US and Iran, Iran and Oman will be authorized to levy transit fees on ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz to fund post-war reconstruction.  While the specific countries required to pay these fees have not been explicitly listed, the system functions as a de facto toll booth where passage is granted selectively to nations with diplomatic ties, such as China, Russia, India, Pakistan, Iraq, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, Japan, the Philippines, and Turkey
Reports indicate that fees are already being charged to certain vessels as "war compensation," with payments reportedly made in Chinese yuan or cryptocurrency, and one vessel allegedly paying up to $2 million for safe passage.  However, some nations like India have secured passage without paying fees based on direct diplomatic agreements, suggesting that the requirement to pay may depend on the specific terms of each bilateral deal. 

The fee structure is expected to vary based on ship type, cargo, and prevailing conditions, though Gulf states like the UAE and Qatar oppose the move, calling for free navigation under international maritime law.  As of April 8, 2026, the final details of which specific nations will be subject to mandatory fees remain opaque, as the conditions of these agreements have not been fully disclosed by either the Iranian government or shipping companies."

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/ir...2026-04-08
"The only journey is the one within."
That should curtail China somewhat


President Donald J. Trump announces 50% tariffs on any country supplying military weapons to Iran on all goods sold to the United States, effective immediately with no exclusions or exemptions
Last updated
24 minutes ago
President Donald J. Trump stated that any country supplying military weapons to Iran will face 50% tariffs on all goods sold to the United States, effective immediately. He emphasized there will be no exclusions or exemptions. The announcement was posted on Truth Social and shared across social media.


and this turns down the thermostat too


Gerhardt vd Merwe
@realgerhardtvdm
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??? MASSIVE NEWS FROM INSIDE CHINA, WESTERN MAINSTREAM MEDIA TRIES TO HIDE:

Taiwan opposition leader Cheng Li-wun has arrived in China to meet President Xi Jinping, in what she's calling a "journey for peace".

AWESOME!
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
[Image: PEART-2744335652.gif]

 
(04-08-2026, 07:33 AM)putnam6 Wrote: That should curtail China somewhat


President Donald J. Trump announces 50% tariffs on any country supplying military weapons to Iran on all goods sold to the United States, effective immediately with no exclusions or exemptions
Last updated
24 minutes ago
President Donald J. Trump stated that any country supplying military weapons to Iran will face 50% tariffs on all goods sold to the United States, effective immediately. He emphasized there will be no exclusions or exemptions. The announcement was posted on Truth Social and shared across social media.

If true, expect the Left to bitch that Trump is destroying the world's economy.
(04-08-2026, 07:39 AM)RazorV66 Wrote: If true, expect the Left to bitch that Trump is destroying the world's economy.

Problem being it tends to be the broader public who generally bears the cost of the tariffs through higher prices and slower growth.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."



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