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Hey Don and Pete, our only working spare Royal Navy boat just broke down! https://www.gbnews.com/news/hms-dragon-f...royal-navy
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(04-07-2026, 12:06 PM)andy06shake Wrote: That's not how it works.
OPEC output shapes global prices.
That's just a fact you will have to accept.
And undercutting isn't sustainable if your costs are higher.
Go and read how these b@stards operate, please.
Do yourself a favour...
Because that is pure fantasy.
Kind of like your wanting a nuclear war to happen wet dream.
That's okay we can change how it works. That is what America does, we make it work.
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(04-07-2026, 12:11 PM)Orby Wrote: Hey Don and Pete, our only working spare Royal Navy boat just broke down! https://www.gbnews.com/news/hms-dragon-f...royal-navy
Yeah, like that's our Royal Navy's only "boat".
Why the misplaced hate for your own Country?
Don and Pete aren't actually reading your febrile posts, by the way, son.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(04-07-2026, 12:13 PM)SomeStupidName Wrote: That's okay we can change how it works. That is what America does, we make it work.
Well, I suggest that's rather naive.
The global oil markets aren't shaped by wishful thinking.
And the United States can't unilaterally "make it work."
Prices, supply chains, and geopolitics dictate outcomes.
Not mere slogans...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(04-07-2026, 12:21 PM)SomeStupidName Wrote: Adding more competition aka alternative markets, is more capitalist then relying on a cartel to set prices soviet style.
Alternative markets don't magically solve cartel power.
OPEC manipulates global supply.
That's the state of play.
Geography, logistics, and politics, not ideology, determine the prices.
Capitalism alone can't override reality...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(04-07-2026, 12:17 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Well, I suggest that's rather naive.
The global oil markets aren't shaped by wishful thinking.
And the United States can't unilaterally "make it work."
Prices, supply chains, and geopolitics dictate outcomes.
Not mere slogans...
It wouldn't be unilateral we would have many partners to achieve the goal of an independent oil market outside the control of OPEC. Us, Israel, Venezuela, the independent and free territory of Alberta and possibly more.
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(04-07-2026, 12:16 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Yeah, like that's our Royal Navy's only "boat".
Why the misplaced hate for your own Country?
Don and Pete aren't actually reading your febrile posts, by the way, son.
Your words OC jigging up nonsense in your mind again, I love my own country, while at the same time despise BAe Syestems / government procurement for ripping off us taxpayers. You won't get it ever, I dealt with them years ago, total corruption gone mad. Not derailing this thread but I mentioned moving the decimal point years ago. Total corruption and even then they can't come up with a product that actually functions reliably. On the DOn and Pete thing, you have no idea who's reading this right now. We've had plenty of famous folks over the years dropping in. For most it's a read only.
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(04-07-2026, 12:23 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Alternative markets don't magically solve cartel power.
OPEC manipulates global supply.
That's the state of play.
Geography, logistics, and politics, not ideology, determine the prices.
Capitalism alone can't override reality...
Capitalism is reality, money talks and bullshit walks.
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
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