Trump says he bombed Iran

[David64]

Did anyone start an Artemis II thread yet? 

Yep.

https://denyignorance.com/Thread-We-Have-Liftoff

[putnam6]

You've never gone through a reset

It's all about perspective 

And when did you go through a "reset" in a past life?

[David64]

And when did you go through a "reset" in a past life?

Maybe 2008 when Bush/Obama ass raped the entire country to save the " too big to fail " corporations ? People lost their life savings but, hey Goldman Sachs and the rest of Wall Street was popping champagne.

[putnam6]

Maybe 2008 when Obama ass raped the entire country to save the " too big to fail " corporations ? People lost their life savings but, hey Goldman Sachs and the rest of Wall Street was popping champagne.

Perhaps, but it was inferred that I haven't seen a reset in my lifetime. I experienced 2008, but do not think that is the reset CT refers to.

[Oldcarpy2]

Starmer is Commie no 1. he leads Commie party! And bombing the power plants holy smoke what's all this illega; kak about. You don't win wars acting like the British army with their hearts and minds bollocks and get chased out of Helmand and Afghan by a bunch of rocky smacked up farmers. You fight to win. Legal lol. You fight to win like Pete stated at the start. All that old hat late 20th C way of doing things is in the bin nowadays. You play these shmucks at their own game. They don't fight like a westerner, they are cruel, they behead children and stack up their heads in pyramids while attacking the West constantly, numerous attacks directed by Iran thwarted over the past decade here and all over the planet. As Pete stated. You fight to win these days.

He may be many things but he is not a Communist.

Much as I despise him and his party, they are not remotely Communist.

If you want to continue blathering about Commies, perhaps you might kindly explain how his policies might resemble Communist ones?

As if you even understand what they are.

Or what War crimes are.

[CriticalStinker]

The case that Irans regime is a global threat has already been made a thousand times in this thread, daily.
The world seems to see it but you’re having a problem.
You may want to reflect on that.

The Hormuz strait is a global trade hotspot in international waters and it isn’t holding itself hostage btw.

The world seems to see that, yet only two countries are engaging Iran, one of whom has been saying they were years, months, or weeks away from a nuke for thirty years.

Russia has threatened to nuke the west for years, and yet I never advocated that we get directly engaged with them. 

Hormuz is just the beginning if this continues to escalate. I imagine Iran will do more if there are boots on the ground or we go after their grid. I am not defending them or advocating for them in any way, that’s the same doctrine every nuclear power has. If there is an existential threat, you hit back with everything you have.

We can’t simply say because they are leveraging what they can that it was going to happen either way. How many countries get attacked and do nothing back? That’s why there should be calculus and strategy before we go to war.

Trump said it himself the other day he only thought this would be a three day war. We’ve heard that before.

[putnam6]

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BREAKING: According to CENTCOM, the second U.S. Air Force CSAR team sent into Iran to rescue the crew of the downed F-15E of the 494th Fighter Squadron has successfully located and rescued the second crew member.

He ejected, survived the crash, and is now safe in Iraq.

This is good news for the 48th Fighter Wing community at RAF Lakenheath—both crew members of the downed F-15E are now safe.

Also, the crew members of the second HH-60W helicopter involved in the rescue operation of the second crew member, which was shot upon by means of MANPADS, are also safe.

Left video below shows the second HC-130J involved in this operation over Khark Island and the right video shows the first one near Yasuj.

[Vermilion]

“That’s why there should be calculus and strategy before we go to war.”

Such a ridiculous statement.

How many thousands of people in the military, government, and civilian think tanks do you wager generated the intelligence, economic, tactical and strategic scenarios needed to hit Iran?

It’s calculus you can’t even begin to comprehend.
To say this “excursion” wasn’t completely and absolutely detailed by thousands of people who’s life is doing just that is dumbfuckery.

Every single president since Clinton received the same intelligence briefing on Iran's nuclear timeline.
Every single one was told the window was closing.
Every single one chose to kick it down the road because the political cost of acting was higher than the political cost of waiting.
Trump got the same briefing.

60kg of 86% enriched uranium.
4 weeks to breakout.
Material for 2 bombs.

He chose to act knowing it would tank his approval.

He chose to act knowing some of his own base might waver.

He chose to act knowing some NATO allies would refuse to help.

He chose to act knowing gas prices would spike.

The difference between Trump and every president before him isn't intelligence.
They all had the same data.
The difference is courage.

Every president had the same file on their desk.
Only one opened it and did something.

[CriticalStinker]

“That’s why there should be calculus and strategy before we go to war.”

Such a ridiculous statement.

How many thousands of people in the military, government, and civilian think tanks do you wager generated the intelligence, economic, tactical and strategic scenarios needed to hit Iran?

It’s calculus you can’t even begin to comprehend.
To say this “excursion” wasn’t completely and absolutely detailed by thousands of people who’s life is doing just that is dumbfuckery.

Every single president since Clinton received the same intelligence briefing on Iran's nuclear timeline.
Every single one was told the window was closing.
Every single one chose to kick it down the road because the political cost of acting was higher than the political cost of waiting.
Trump got the same briefing.

60kg of 86% enriched uranium.
4 weeks to breakout.
Material for 2 bombs.

He chose to act knowing it would tank his approval.

He chose to act knowing some of his own base might waver.

He chose to act knowing some NATO allies would refuse to help.

He chose to act knowing gas prices would spike.

The difference between Trump and every president before him isn't intelligence.
They all had the same data.
The difference is courage.

Every president had the same file on their desk.
Only one opened it and did something.

That's a good case you made, and I can see your passion and conviction for it.

But I've heard it almost my whole life. Saying it takes courage is a foreign statement to me when he dodged the draft multiple times for a war he didn't agree with, but he's fine to send soldiers to this one he ordered. 

And courage to spike oil and have the market take a hit doesn't work when his family has billions, and made billions more off of his office. 

I've heard this story before, weapons of mass destruction. And I've heard this very man say he obliterated their program and sent them back years. Now he's talking about taking their oil.

Odd that, a big heart string pulling case to be made only for the truth to come out later. Remember Venezuela being about drugs and a tyrannical government? Then it became about oil, and their government stayed the same.

We replaced the Taliban with the Taliban, Iraq with a failed state, and now the supreme leader with his son. No one cares about those government or those people. This is all a game for the elites, and has been since WWII. Truman tried to warn us.

[cherokeetroy]

“That’s why there should be calculus and strategy before we go to war.”

Such a ridiculous statement.

How many thousands of people in the military, government, and civilian think tanks do you wager generated the intelligence, economic, tactical and strategic scenarios needed to hit Iran?

It’s calculus you can’t even begin to comprehend.
To say this “excursion” wasn’t completely and absolutely detailed by thousands of people who’s life is doing just that is dumbfuckery.

Every single president since Clinton received the same intelligence briefing on Iran's nuclear timeline.
Every single one was told the window was closing.
Every single one chose to kick it down the road because the political cost of acting was higher than the political cost of waiting.
Trump got the same briefing.

60kg of 86% enriched uranium.
4 weeks to breakout.
Material for 2 bombs.

He chose to act knowing it would tank his approval.

He chose to act knowing some of his own base might waver.

He chose to act knowing some NATO allies would refuse to help.

He chose to act knowing gas prices would spike.

The difference between Trump and every president before him isn't intelligence.
They all had the same data.
The difference is courage.

Every president had the same file on their desk.
Only one opened it and did something.

If Iran wanted to inflict harm on the US in the past, all they had to do was shut down the Strait of Hormuz - they didn't need a nuclear weapon

They never did that until we bombed them