Trump says he bombed Iran

[bastion]

The Brits were cowardly to begin with and I agree with Trump.  They didn’t want to send anything in the beginning, that came after some thought on the ramifications of doing nothing or so I believe    So, they offered and Trump basically told them the hard works done, forget about it, worry about your own oil.  I don’t see a problem with that.

Nope - we knew the US were up to subterfuge and replaced troops/airframes accordingly in Jan this year (see my posts on this thread back in late Jan -Early Feb). The US actively went against all advice of their own intel reports and all other-eye nations. Trump knows full well that if he had hthe slightest justification for the war he could go through other channels but his own intel reports prove there is no legal justification for the strikes; hence why his admin refuse to seek congressional approval and why Hesketh ignored US constitution and international law to try and make himself a multi-billionaire via insider info as financial records show. Blame is squarely on Hesketh there to be clear - Trump started realising Hesketh duped him into the conflict hours after Hesketh's trillion dollar insider-info wager.

The US refused to establish any legal cause for the strikes in accordance with international law then blamed allies for not 'being enthusiastic enough' to break international and domestic law to enter a war where the US is opennly admitted to copying Putin and purposefully calling it a 'millitary operation' to bypass all constitutional, domestic and internatial legal basis.

[KrustyKrab]

I respectfully hold up a mirror for you.

Is he not a draft dodging coward?

Unlike you, who bashed my Country, I don't bash yours, just your poor excuse for a President.

Yeah you always deflect with that, honesty is tough for some.  

I’ve only ever said two things about the Brit’s in 21 years of being here and ATS. Both times you jumped all over me with the usual TDS afflicted rhetorical rant bashing our country and president, blah, blah Trump.  Maybe thicken the skin mate or don’t reply to my post.

[KrustyKrab]

Perhaps do some research into what NATO is?

It's not your private military.  Neither is the UK.

I never said they were but they sure like our billions that they’ve receive from the US, for what?  No support and to hate on us and one of our strongest allies?

Apparently you don’t think others can have an opinion about another country but you?

[WallFlowerActive]

I never said they were but they sure like our billions that they’ve receive from the US, for what?  No support and to hate on us and one of our strongest allies?

Apparently you don’t think others can have an opinion about another country but you?

Where they don’t mind when the US tax payer pumps billions into NATO nor the Ukraine.

Funny how evil Putin is.  Funny Iran sales and supplies weapons to Putin.  But now Iran is the victim?  You can’t make this stuff up.

[ANNEE]

Congress? The Senate?  His sycophant advisors?

Ah. None then.

Exactly!!!!

It’s obvious Trump is off his nuts. 

Blame has to go to those allowing this nonsense to continue.

[KrustyKrab]

Israel has never fought a ground war with us, but have received the most aid of any other country on earth from us. They only import 15-20b a year from us. Europe had over 50% of foreign investment into the US over the last ten years.

If we’re going to talk about all of that, let’s be consistent. Right now we’re quarterbacking a war in the Middle East, and only one of those countries are participating. The rest are not paying anything for it. So if people are so against Muslim dictatorships, why are we saying many of them in the Middle East are better allies than Christian European countries who have had far more involvement in our economy and alliance?

The math isn’t mathing.

Because it’s not about that. Israel is in a main strategic military location for the US to be able to perform military operations in the ME.  That’s what it’s about and has been for decades, which includes all preceding administrations before Trump.

[David64]

It's from CNN so I'm sure the Left won't have a problem with the source.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/09/23/politics/...ama-bombed
 

 
He’s the war-ending President who, as of Tuesday, has ordered airstrikes in seven different countries (that we know of).
President Barack Obama has always acknowledged there are times when military force is necessary. Even when he accepted his Nobel Peace Prize in 2009, he said there could be instances when war is “morally justified.”
But though he campaigned for the presidency on ending U.S.-led wars, Obama’s administration has certainly been willing to use force when it sees fit.

Here's another in case you missed the first one.

https://www.aei.org/articles/obama-who-i...ar-powers/

President Obama, who invaded Libya in 2011 without even asking for congressional approval, took the occasion on Tuesday — in his final 45 days in office — to lecture Washington about constitutional and democratic conduct of war.
 “It is important for us to know what it is we are doing, and to have to explain what we are doing to the public,” Obama said at MacDill Air Force base Tuesday afternoon. Obama in March 2011 announced the U.S. intervention in Libya by radio address, over the weekend, from overseas.
“If a threat is serious enough to require the sacrifice of our men and women in uniform, then members of Congress should at least have the courage to make clear where they stand … by fulfilling their constitutional duty to authorize the use of force against the threats we face today.”

If you didn't whine when Obama did it, STFU.

[Oldcarpy2]

I never said they were but they sure like our billions that they’ve receive from the US, for what?  No support and to hate on us and one of our strongest allies?

Apparently you don’t think others can have an opinion about another country but you?

The only hate and disrespect has been from Trump on us, in case you missed that.

Like I said, research NATO's charter.

[cherokeetroy]

"US President Donald Trump threatens to halt weapons supplies to Ukraine unless European countries agreed to join a coalition to secure the Strait of Hormuz, the Financial Times reported."

https://www.ft.com/content/d304071a-ca97...25a6b1a6=1


Trump: "We will be leaving very soon, and if France or some other country wants to get oil or gas, they will go up through the hormuz strait and will be able to fend for themselves. But we have nothing to do with that. What happens in the strait—we aren't going to have anything to do with it. There is no reason for us to do it."

https://x.com/Acyn/status/2039100669874028877?s=20

Politico reports that Trump will use his primetime speech to say that the war is 'winding down' and US objectives have been met, while saying that allies are responsible for reopening the Strait of Hormuz.

https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/2039...86280?s=20

[CriticalStinker]

Because it’s not about that. Israel is in a main strategic military location for the US to be able to perform military operations in the ME.  That’s what it’s about and has been for decades, which includes all preceding administrations before Trump.

I don’t see how that makes them better than a group of countries who import far more, invest vastly more in our country, and have fought side by side with our soldiers.

Israel has taken more aid than any single country. And a lot of Europe payed us back money for WWII.

Also, we have no treaties with Israel.