Trump says he bombed Iran

[putnam6]

I thought a big portion of the justification of this war was liberating people from Islamic dictatorships...

Now some of those very governments are better allies than nations who have fought side by side with our troops on the frontlines?

Seems like quite the stretch.

Edit: over the last ten years, Europe accounted for over 50% of foreign investment in the US  to the tune of 3.64 trillion. UAE investmentt is 1.5 over ten years. While sizeable, it's not like it completely overshadows Europe even if we're comparing a group of countries to one.

Yes, but with some you westernize and do business with, others that whack their women in the head with a rusty machete sometimes require a more hands-on approach.


We are talking about the war and its cost. Not the global economy, #1 NATO was lukewarm, the Gulf States not so much, so respectfully, Europe can piss off and Uncle Sam has shit to take care of. LOL, we may talk later, or you may get our Dear NATO letter 2-week notice.

Business-wise, Uncle Sammy does business with anybody and everybody.

You did see where Europe drops tariffs on US goods....cough cough

Besides, if we are gonna do business with Muslims, it's better to deal with the Princes and the Sultans. Europe and the UK have to run any decision by thier Muslim population anyway....



I know nobody gives a shit about thread drift, but I do mostly prefer talking about the war at the moment

[CriticalStinker]

I know nobody gives a shit about thread drift, but I do mostly prefer talking about the war at the moment

I was responding to your point about Middle Eastern countries being better allies than Europeans. You brought that up. I showed how Europe accounted for over 50% of foreign investment over the last ten years.

I think it's odd you're implying I was the source of the drift, in response, especially when my first line was:

I thought a big portion of the justification of this war was liberating people from Islamic dictatorships...

[putnam6]

What does that signify? Some more missile and air strikes?? They been so effective so far. And  if the plan is using their ground forces, KSA got whooped so many times in Yemen by the sandal wearing desert boys. The Houthis liberated a whole chunk of Yemen while running a counter ISIS/Qaeda op under Saudi air strikes, and still succeeded. I posted scores of the videos on ATS during the ISIS war time. KSA sucks on the ground. Their FOB's would frequently get ambushed off guard and removed from the equations by dudes in sandals and no armored vehicles or air support. The UAE if they contribute any ground forces will likely be their foreign mercenaries as they  did in the Sudan with hiring Colombians when their stream of African and middle eastern mercs began to dry  up.

I do not see the KSA and UAE being involved in any kind of ground op. To be honest, now that Trump is speaking about Cuba, I think he will make a sudden pivot during a wind-down moment. Basically he will try to redirect attention on Cuba once a specific flashpoint happens there which is either being planned unnaturally or may  soon spark on its own. Either way what  will happen in the subsequent weeks once that begins is the  media will slowly switch coverage day  by day and will be noticeably  recordable through analytics and represented in percentage  changes. The hours dedicated to talking Iran just fluidly converge towards Cuba. 30 seconds  less for Iran stories one day, goes towards Cuba instead. Then a minute the next  day. Three minutes less the following week, etc.. etc..

Doing  it gradually ensures the cattle, zombies, proles,  regular people do not notice. Although it will first change in the algorithm as Cuba related stuff just  pops up more despite you not clicking related content. Suddenly sometime in the summer, we are cheering the liberation of Cuba, kinetic action in the middle east has slowed somewhat during talks nobody acknowledges having, and we all get redirected and distracted by synchronizing USA 250 anniversary with liberation of the newest  free people in the Western hemisphere, with the goal hoping they have mostly gotten people to forget  and ignore the Iran debacle the same way all those passionate Defend Ukraine folks just do not discuss Ukraine anymore, despite the fact it has not stopped.

This is of course a haphazard inference, but I feel it fits a pattern.

I want to revisit this. I'm multitasking and want to read it all and comment more.

But we were talking the cost of the war, ergo UAE and Saudi Arabia can somewht help militarily in specific areas but thier main help will be financial, so before where we wanted NATO's military questionable military assistance we can now do it ourselves it's more efficient, Uncle Sammy hits them with his A-10s the Prince's and Sultan's pay a chunk of the war bill and get a modest discount on the American MIC defensive systems.

WIN/WIN

[quintessentone]

The American people are out in the streets giving their take on this war.

"More than 3,100 "No Kings" demonstrations are taking place across the United States on Saturday, March 28, 2026, with organizers expecting over 9 million participants to join the largest single-day protest in U.S. history. 
These nationwide rallies are driven by opposition to President Donald Trump's policies, the war with Iran, skyrocketing gas prices, and federal immigration enforcement crackdowns.  While the flagship event is held at the Minnesota State Capitol in St.  Paul featuring performances by Bruce Springsteen, Joan Baez, and Jane Fonda, major demonstrations are also occurring in New York, Los Angeles, Washington, D.C., and Chicago."

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"Americans abroad showed up for protests in cities around the world, including: London; Tokyo; Amsterdam; Rome; Barcelona; Porto, Portugal; and Sydney, Australia. More protests are scheduled to take place across major cities in Latin America today."

https://indianexpress.com/article/world/...-10606852/



"No more blood for oil."

"Protesters across the U.S. and internationally on March 28, 2026, are using signs with slogans such as "No Kings, No War", "Stop the War on Iran", and "War for profit, our troops are not for sale" to condemn the administration's actions in Iran and other conflicts."

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/28/us/no...ideos.html

[IDELB2006]

@quintessentone

It is being said that the USA is fighting wars WWII style while others are fighting 21st Century warfare.

When I think of ww2 I think of carpet bombing, and trench warfare.

This is more a combination of wasting expensive missiles in a dessert, and bluffing.

[worldstarcountry]

too busy for that nonsense, im going to enjoy the beach instead. Peace out!

[Kurokage]

Of course, why should anybody listen to the White House or western media when we can find out what’s really going on from all the anti American war college flunkies here posting IRGC propaganda doom porn.
Please continue to enlighten us to the gigantic US military strategic and tactical missteps and how Iran is stronger now than a few weeks ago.
I am entertained. LoL

So you're just going to ignore the fact that Trump's Whitehouse totally lied about destroying Iran's nuclear program only a few months ago, and you're also going to ignore the lies about total destruction of Iran's military?? all whilst complaining about other members posting from other sources and implying it's all middle eastern lies?

You always make total strawman fallacies and appeals to the extreme, which make you look very childish.

[Oldcarpy2]

Vermilion wrote:

 "Please continue to enlighten us to the gigantic US military strategic and tactical missteps and how Iran is stronger now than a few weeks ago."

Seeing as no one has suggested any such thing enlightenment for you seems rather impossible

[CriticalStinker]

So you're just going to ignore the fact that Trump's Whitehouse totally lied about destroying Iran's nuclear program only a few months ago, and you're also going to ignore the lies about total destruction of Iran's military?? all whilst complaining about other members posting from other sources and implying it's all middle eastern lies?

You always make total strawman fallacies and appeals to the extreme, which make you look very childish.

Hell, we can zoom in to just the last week.

We've declared victory multiple times, while also issuing a 48 hour deadline for the strait to be open before we hit Iran's power plants. Then we extended it five days, then another ten. In that time, multiple sources and officials from Iran have said there are no negotiations. The caveat to that is I don't trust Iranian officials to be truthful, and then there is the reality much of the leadership has been killed, so it's possible there are different factions trying different things.

So we have our admin who has lied multiple times, and an ideological extremist dictatorship, neither we can fully trust. Then we look at the actions... The Iranians turned back ships including Chinese vessels and fired on a Thai tanker. We had the Israelis strike some infrastructure in the past few days.

To me, I think it's clear that if there is a diplomatic talk going on right now, it's far from serious, and may not even be the players who can enact it in Iran... Plus Israel would have to agree to it too.

Also, regime change doesn't even appear to be on the table, which is what our admin was talking about and half of this board. Hell, some members even believed they knew who the next leader would be when the regime fell, and are now saying things are going better than expected. It's moving the goalposts and nothing more. That's why I asked people what they thought the objectives were weeks ago so we could have a point of reference as things progressed.

[cherokeetroy]

If you’re going to post pro IRGC propaganda, at least use a better source, like WAPO….

“Images show what experts say are U.S. land mines dispersed across a residential area in southern Iran.
Human rights groups have long called to ban land mines because of their propensity to harm or kill civilians, often years after conflicts have ended.”

https://x.com/washingtonpost/status/2037711320863154474

The levels of anti American doom porn have reached so far are quite hilarious. LoL

Maybe you'll be happier getting all your propaganda---err...NEWS--- straight from the source via the new White House app that just launched

https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/20375434...03018?s=20

(That's what all the stupid, cryptic WH X posts were about)


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