Trump says he bombed Iran

[Oldcarpy2]

I believe previous Administrations were wary of War against Iran because it might ignite the tinderbox that is the Middle East.

Maybe, they were right?

[Oldcarpy2]

I wonder how much it is costing the US to maintain and insure those seized Venezuelan oil tankers.

Has it actually gained anything from that oil?

[cherokeetroy]

Circling back to the hypothesis that the core purpose of this war is to disrupt the petrodollar system & supply chains as they lay the groundwork for the new system infrastructure...

 "If you wanted to reindustrialize the US, while wiping out global manufacturing, this is the way to make that happen."

https://x.com/FreightAlley/status/203426...75841?s=20




"Today, the Kingdom of Sweden becomes the first member of the European Union to sign the Pax Silica Declaration.

What is unfolding in the Strait of Hormuz right now is a lesson. Iran is deliberately weaponizing a single point of failure in the global economy to hold the world hostage through a narrow corridor of water.

This lesson is not only about oil. It is about dependency. It is about what happens when the physical infrastructure of global civilization — the chokepoints, the corridors, the cables, the ports — becomes the battlefield.

Sweden is not merely a diplomatic partner. Sweden is a 5G power. Ericsson — born in Stockholm, built over 150 years of relentless engineering — is one of the only companies on Earth capable of building trusted, sovereign-grade 5G infrastructure at scale.

We are building the logistics architecture, the mineral supply chains, the refining capacity, the manufacturing redundancy, and the investment vehicles so that no adversary — ever — can weaponize a chokepoint and threaten our economies."

https://x.com/UnderSecE/status/2034008353433698599?s=20

[FlyersFan]

"A U.S. defense official confirmed the Israeli strike on the gas facility in Iran was coordinated with the Trump administration"

Okay.   
So we agreed to a hit on an economic target.
Gotta' cut off their money supply so they can't fund their war.
Fine by me.

[FlyersFan]

What does that achieve? Now Iran retaliates on infrastructure in other Gulf nations and the global energy supply continues to dip. Was it worth it if their regime is still standing in a month? 

They were going to hit those anyways as they crashed and burned.
What we achieve is nailing them economically so they can't afford the war.
Pretty basic stuff.   That's how you win.

[cherokeetroy]

Gain control over 3 strategic chokepoints:

Based on current global maritime security, the three strategic chokepoints—Strait of Hormuz, Panama Canal, and Arctic routes near Greenland—are central to energy and trade

Restore America's Maritime Dominance 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-...dominance/


Pax Silica

[FlyersFan]

I believe previous Administrations were wary of War against Iran because it might ignite the tinderbox that is the Middle East.  Maybe, they were right?

So they stuck their heads in the sand and let Iran grow in power.   Now we have to get them before they load the nukes on the launchers.   Iran was allowed to attack for 47 years and grow in power.    It was a mistake.

[CriticalStinker]

They were going to hit those anyways as they crashed and burned.
What we achieve is nailing them economically so they can't afford the war.
Pretty basic stuff.   That's how you win.

I see it as a way to get entrenched for decades to come, again.

Our debt is at record levels and we're still playing global police. I know a lot of people here took it to heart that Iran said death to America, but I don't think their people saw it that way. Most weren't around when they overthrew the Shah. The people didn't hate us, in fact they were one of the first countries, at least in the region to offer condolences for the 9/11 attacks. There are pictures of candlelight vigils in Tehran shortly after 9/11.

Other nations have said things like death to America. Hell, Russia said they may resort to nukes on multiple occasions and we're trying to improve relations with them now.

But I doubt the people of Iran would have a vigil if something happened to us now. And I bet many of our new "friends" in the region are thinking about our "friendship".

So after replacing the Taliban with the Taliban at the cost of thousands of our soldiers lives and trillions of dollars, I think the Iran deal is a bad one. Then we lost thousands of lives and spent trillions of dollars to replace Iraq with a failed state.

At what point do we have nothing left to protect because we keep spending the money of our Youth that they haven't even gotten yet on "protecting" ourselves.

How do we do peace through strength if we spent most of our advanced weapons on a country who's navy and air force couldn't last 40 hours?

That's a bad deal.

[Knows]

Ships are not the only threat, but we are talking about tankers, as the Strait remains closed.

You wanted our help, threw a hissy fit, and now you don't need it.

You are a laughing stock.

Trump didn't want your help. Trump was only exposing how much of an ally you actually are.

[Oldcarpy2]

So they stuck their heads in the sand and let Iran grow in power.   Now we have to get them before they load the nukes on the launchers.   Iran was allowed to attack for 47 years and grow in power.    It was a mistake.

So, they have WMDs that can reach us in 45 minutes, or something?

Where have we heard that before?

Any evidence for those "launchers"?

The Middle East is a tinderbox.  You have lit it.

Cheers for that.