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(03-17-2026, 10:07 AM)putnam6 Wrote: This is about NATO allies, and Uncle Sammy scratches your back for 50 years, and when Uncle Sammy could use an assist to end this quicker, by showing a unified front PUBLICALLY, SYMBOLICALLY

FFS, sakes, Starmer, say you will support the US and take the public backlash, and stall or just send an oiler, would be better than immediate no Im scared of what our local muslim clerics will think and say.

America benefited from it's spreading of 'freedom', American consumerism, and appointing itself as 'world police' after WW2, since Trump Americans seem to have forgotten that?

If it had been a unified front, Trump would've consulted his allies, instead of being lead by Netanyahu into a war with no apparent exit.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(03-17-2026, 11:23 AM)RazorV66 Wrote: You guys keep saying Trump doesn't know what to do, why is that?

Trump doesn't make a move without consulting his military advisors....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Chiefs_of_Staff


Every one of them is a highly decorated military officer with decades of combined service.

I think you're mixing up military advisors with Putin and Netanyahu??

And Trump has shown he only listens to his 'yes men'.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(03-17-2026, 11:23 AM)RazorV66 Wrote: You guys keep saying Trump doesn't know what to do, why is that?

Trump doesn't make a move without consulting his military advisors....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Chiefs_of_Staff


Every one of them is a highly decorated military officer with decades of combined service.



What, like Hegseth?

Seems that his Military Advisor is probably Netanyahu.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(03-17-2026, 11:18 AM)putnam6 Wrote: The political public support and perception would have been nice, and all of NATO has pussed out.


I disagrre.

I think Trump has turned the NATO relationship into a sh*t storm, by trying to belittle his closets allies in the organisation at every chance he gets.  Muslim Clerics have nothing to do with it, and it's all to do with how many times you can be sh*t on before you reach for a cork, and say enough's enough!!



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(03-17-2026, 11:54 AM)Kurokage Wrote: I think you're mixing up military advisors with Putin and Netanyahu??

And Trump has shown he only listens to his 'yes men'.


Don't forget Kushner and Witkoff

"Britain’s national security adviser Jonathan Powell: “We regarded Witkoff and Kushner as Israeli assets that dragged a president into a war he wants to get out of.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/m...thin-reach
(03-17-2026, 11:54 AM)Kurokage Wrote: I think you're mixing up military advisors with Putin and Netanyahu??

And Trump has shown he only listens to his 'yes men'.


So just more pissing in the wind without real evidence.
Or how to tell me you are pandering to a demographic group without saying you are pandering to a demographic group.


Quote:https://x.com/i/status/2033951107525869876

CGTN Europe (@CGTNEurope)
GERMANY'S FOREIGN MINISTER: NOT REALISTIC TO ONLY HAVE MILITARY SOLUTION TO IRAN CONFLICT

X•Today at 12:58 PM
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
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(03-17-2026, 12:07 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: So just more pissing in the wind without real evidence.

Yeah, that's exactly want Trump is doing.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(03-17-2026, 12:09 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Or how to tell me you are pandering to a demographic group without saying you are pandering to a demographic group.


And you're telling me the attack on Iran isn't??



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
Do you know who's doing really well out of all this......Russia.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."



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