Trump says he bombed Iran

[putnam6]

Another thing that Donald Trump doesn't understand...

Just because he can choose to steer his nation down the path of war, with a wink of the eye.

Doesn't mean Starmer can, or that's how we do things this side of the pond. 

Yeah, Starmer is a w@nker, but in this case, not of the complete and utter sort.

Uncle Sam and Uncle Schlomo are doing fine militarily...

This is about NATO allies, and Uncle Sammy scratches your back for 50 years, and when Uncle Sammy could use an assist to end this quicker, by showing a unified front PUBLICALLY, SYMBOLICALLY

FFS, sakes, Starmer, say you will support the US and take the public backlash, and stall or just send an oiler, would be better than immediate no Im scared of what our local muslim clerics will think and say.

[putnam6]

Donald. Pete. Good morning. You don't have to act out on this one, yet it's an optoin.......................

Let the Chinks have it. When the time is right and the deal is done pull out and let Beijing take control. It makes total sense. The west at least the Americas don't need Gulf oil. China does. Craxck a deal with Zi to take total control of the Persian side of the Gulf. Now nt only will China be able to police its own oil supplies, but they will also have the balls to sort out Iran once and for all. Radical Islam Shia needs killing off and the West is far too playboy wimp to do what needs to be done in all honesty for the future of Planet Earth. hand the keys to China, oh tey have the balls to crack down and eliminate the towel head fanatics as seen in their west Jinjang etc. They'll colonise it in no time and have the natives praying towards the the Great Wall.  It's a no brainer for the future of our planet. Lots of dosh to be made in the hand over of responsibilities too and a very convenient way out out of the Iranian problem  

Sounds appealing , but absolutely screws the Iranian GP and, as always, the Kurds.

[andy06shake]

Uncle Sam and Uncle Schlomo are doing fine militarily...

This is about NATO allies, and Uncle Sammy scratches your back for 50 years, and when Uncle Sammy could use an assist to end this quicker, by showing a unified front PUBLICALLY, SYMBOLICALLY

FFS, sakes, Starmer, say you will support the US and take the public backlash, and stall or just send an oiler, would be better than immediate no Im scared of what our local muslim clerics will think and say.

He said he doesn't need us any longer, Putnam6.




And NATO is a defensive organisation, not Trump's private army.

As to the silly "Im scared of what our local muslim clerics will think and say", well thats just bait. 

End of the day if we decide to send forces to protect the Straits.

Starmer will need to run that past his military advisers at the very least.

Politically the decision is his, but operationally it relies heavily on professional military judgement.

[Orby]

Sounds appealing , but absolutely screws the Iranian GP and, as always, the Kurds.

Anything's worth a go. Pretty sure the Kurds can be sorted out a little place bit like the YJewish were. I'd give em a small part of Iraq too. Then draw thye line at that. A proper Congress of Berlin for the ME. The natives have proved incapable of running the place. Russia got to get Ukraine back in the deal, Yanks get all of the Americas (including Cuba) then all the big powers are happy again. It just needs doing and radical Islam is terminated. The Chinese won't feck around 

[putnam6]

Anything's worth a go. Pretty sure the Kurds can be sorted out a little place bit like the YJewish were. I'd give em a small part of Iraq too. Then draw thye line at that. A proper Congress of Berlin for the ME. The natives have proved incapable of running the place. Russia got to get Ukraine back in the deal, Yanks get all of the Americas (including Cuba) then all the big powers are happy again. It just needs doing and radical Islam is terminated. The Chinese won't feck around 

Pretty sure a significant percentage of Persians are about self-determination... sounds like more internal civil war at best, which isn't stabilizing to the region. Plus, it would likely spook the other Middle East states

[cherokeetroy]

Posted on 4chan from anonymous source

I can't verify the details but the main premise is that the real war is being fought between the dying, legacy monetary system and the emerging AI blockchain infrastructure 

That war, which was waged in the background over the last several years, has finally gone kinetic



"Iran is not an insolvent pariah state. Iran is the primary source of unhedged liquidity for the shadow banking system. London is the hub; Tehran is the offshore battery. IRGC energy credits are not sold, they're swapped for vostro credits in mid-tier Omani banks. These credits get bundled into collateralized synthetic obligations. They hit the London repo desks as high-quality collateral to back short-term loans. Without this 24/7 inflow of dark energy-backed paper, the City of London's leverage ratios collapse.

The 2026 Iran war is based on two factions of the global elite fighting one another. Their fight has gone from boardrooms to kinetic events, which can also be seen via other seemingly unconnected "accidents" in the form of private transport crashes and security lapses for world leaders.

Faction A:
Old money central bankers, they aim to keep the Iran loop open at all costs. They know the western debt-to-GDP ratio is terminal. They use the shadow-trade to suppress domestic inflation and keep the repo market from seizing. To them, a nuclear deal is just a legal patch to keep the detergent flowing.

Faction B:
Silicon Valley neo-feudalists, they aim for kinetic escalation and regime change. They want to force a global default and great reset to move everyone onto a fully CBDC-tracked ledger. They attack the Iran loop because it is un-tracked and gives old money a way to survive without their tech.

There is no blockade, it's a monopoly. The sanctions are not walls, they're tolls. They create a compliance tax that ensures only the 5 biggest banks can handle the volume. Seizing the central bank of Iran is about deleting the last off-grid gold reserves. If the Iran loop breaks, London will take a 30% liquidity haircut within 48 hours, which one may see via a shift in the gold-to-oil ratio. Escalation will probably involve cutting subsea cables. The system is cannibalizing its own infrastructure to stay alive."

[Orby]

Pretty sure a significant percentage of Persians are about self-determination... sounds like more internal civil war at best, which isn't stabilizing to the region. Plus, it would likely spook the other Middle East states

Yes I know where your'e coming from for sure, but thing is if the Yanks aren't willing to kill of radical islam which probably will take a ground invasion and boots on the ground for maybe 100 years til the re-colonistaion and brainwashing of the natives into the ways of another system / culture / religion (eg. Zambia) then surely there's got to be another way. If the West won't do it then surely the baton needs passing to another to do the honourable thing for humanity, otherwise we will back to square one, next time the Mullahs possibly having acquired nukes. I just don't see another way.

[Oldcarpy2]

Uncle Sam and Uncle Schlomo are doing fine militarily...

This is about NATO allies, and Uncle Sammy scratches your back for 50 years, and when Uncle Sammy could use an assist to end this quicker, by showing a unified front PUBLICALLY, SYMBOLICALLY

FFS, sakes, Starmer, say you will support the US and take the public backlash, and stall or just send an oiler, would be better than immediate no Im scared of what our local muslim clerics will think and say.

His War has nothing to do with NATO. He didn't consult his allies before kicking it off and has only insulted them, bullied them and pissed them off.

As for your final comments, less said, the better so I will bite my tongue.

[Kurokage]

Do you think Europe really gives a monkeys about America?
Oh .. they like getting stuff from us .. taking advantage of us ... 
But do they really care?   No.

I disagree with this type of 'Trumpism'

American after WW2 decided the enemy was now communism and, saw this 'threat' slowly creeping through Europe (so NATO and America's deliverance of 'Freedom' was born). America also kept many of it's basses active after WW2 to confront this threat, and also use them as an early waring system against attack. All sides benefited from this, not just Europe.

Since Trump became president, he's twisted this narrative to America was only doing this to protect Europe. That's a lie.

And now Trump is also trying to turn NATO from a defensive organisation into his own little attack force to sort out the mess he started.

[Oldcarpy2]

I disagree with this type of 'Trumpism'

American after WW2 decided the enemy was now communism and, saw this 'threat' slowly creeping through Europe (so NATO and America's deliverance of 'Freedom' was born). America also kept many of it's basses active after WW2 to confront this threat, and also use them as an early waring system against attack. All sides benefited from this, not just Europe.

Since Trump became president, he's twisted this narrative to America was only doing this to protect Europe. That's a lie.

And now Trump is also trying to turn NATO from a defensive organisation into his own little attack force to sort out the mess he started.

Well said.