Trump says he bombed Iran

[KrustyKrab]

Calm down, calm down. Getting hysterical won't help you persuade anyone.

You cannot know how ignorant I think 'they' are (whoever you mean by 'they') – so, obviously, you are in no position to make any statement about 'them' relative to me. Your guarantee is nonsense.

In any case, it is as plain as day that Trump didn't even expect the Iranians to close down the Straits of Hormuz, let alone think that he might have to land troops on Kharg Island to reopen them. If you think otherwise, show us the proof. Otherwise all you have is faith.

I suspect you haven't quite grasped the geopolitical argument under discussion here. Until you do, and formulate an intelligent response to it, would it not be best to keep silent? You're making yourself look like a fool, my friend.

All is lost on you.  I wouldn’t be pointing fingers, you’ve always sounded the fool, going back to the ATS days.   Belittling and berating someone doesn’t make you right, it makes you sound ignorant.  But hey,  that’s par for course for you Trump haters, it’s what y’all do when you’re not intelligent enough to refute the subject at hand.  The “orange man bad” shtick is so yesterday and whenever it’s used a room temp IQ always comes to mind.  

But….I digress, not going to stoop to your level with tit for tat drivel, happy Trump hating to ya….

[Oldcarpy2]

All is lost on you.  I wouldn’t be pointing fingers, you’ve always sounded the fool, going back to ATS.   Belittling and berating someone doesn’t make you right, it makes you sound ignorant.  But hey,  that’s par for course for you Trump haters, it’s what y’all do when you’re not intelligent enough to refute the subject at hand.  The “orange man bad” shtick is so yesterday and whenever it’s used a room temp IQ always comes to mind.  

But….I digress, not going to stoop to your level with tit for tat drivel, happy Trump hating to ya….

Oh, the irony.   Have a mirror.

[andy06shake]

Dirty bombs.
They can come in.

And hitting our people and interests over in the Middle East
as well as in Europe where their missiles can reach.

Iran isn't a tame little harmless kitten that the left wants everyone to think it is.
Its not contained.   

I do agree with you that Trump went to war mostly for Israel.  
Manipulated into moving against Iran before he was ready to.

I agree Iran is not a "harmless kitten" but it also isn't an imminent threat to the U.S.A.

Its missiles reach roughly 1,240 miles, which would seem to cover regional targets like Israel and the Gulf states.

Not the continental United States.

Europe would require much longer-range systems to target anywhere significant. 

Deploying a "Dirty bomb" talk is speculation.

And the fact is that risk exists for many nations, not just Iran.

Hell of a reason to go to war over, and you have to admit it reeks of the imaginary WMD Iraq war nonsense.

[andy06shake]

Well that’s not good.

Trump said anyone reporting on the “not” war was gonna be held for treason.

So much for a Free Press…

Sounds like something Putin or Viktor Orbán would say. 

So much for a free press indeed...

[KrustyKrab]

Oh, the irony.   Have a mirror.

Back at ya

[Thetruth]

Self defense.
And actually the military action being taken doesn't need legal justification.

But if you want one ... Self defense.  You don't have to wait to be shot at in order to shoot first.   Just the threat from Iran is enough to justify a self defense claim.   And Iran has been very bold with it's threats to 'wipe Israel off the map' and 'destroy America'.   Coupled with their weapons program and their obvious nuclear ambitions (they even stated they have enough nuclear material for 11 bombs), as well as them being caught in lie after lie during bad faith negotiations ... self defense is an obvious motive for this action.

By American law, war has not been declared so Congress doesn't have to be notified or asked for permission.   This is a military operation which means Congress has to be notified within 60 days.   It's only day 16.   So nothing illegal by American law.  And t his type of action has been done by past presidents ... Clinton and Obama for example.

And as far as the UN goes, the UN is not a legislative body. It does not exercise legal jurisdiction over anyone.

SOME strikes by America, Israel and Iran may be against the Geneva Convention.   If it can be determined that they were done on purpose against civilian infrastructure that was not known to be being used for military purposes.   But that will have to be determined when the bombs stop and investigations begin.

Not a war but a military  operation? You sound like putin....

[putnam6]

There is very little difference between MAGA and leftists when it comes to employing identical diversionary tactics to shut down debate

Aside from blue hair and little red hats, there are fewer and fewer unique identifiers separating them, anymore

Hard to argue against that...

Yes, there are common traits in all extremists of all flavors, as there are common traits among moderate Democrats, Republicans, and Independents.

I believe that if the moderates ever coalesce on our similar priorities, into a 3rd Party, we would rarely have the "extremely" lacking Presidential candidates we currently have

[KrustyKrab]

Oh, the irony.   Have a mirror.

Apparently you’re not aware of the post history being addressed, it’s always the same neurotic BS.

[cherokeetroy]

"According to Marine Traffic, Iran has allowed the first oil tanker to pass through the Strait of Hormuz after the shipment was paid for in Chinese yuan. The ‘Karachi’ oil tanker, an Aframax-class vessel carrying Das crude from Abu Dhabi, crossed the Strait of Hormuz safely with its AIS (Automatic Identification System) activated. It is the first non-Iranian oil tanker to do so today without any incident, and it is on its way to Pakistan."

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/203349...21865?s=20

[quintessentone]

Apparently you’re not aware of the post history being addressed, it’s always the same neurotic BS.

I don't get neurotic or BS, the post history from that member seems logical to me, in regards to Trump being clueless and having no strategic plans beyond having 'fun' bombing civilians.