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(03-11-2026, 07:36 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Yes ... the decision to go to war is not done by the Secretary of State (who is Rubio, who is Catholic and not fundamentalist) and it is not done by the Secretary of War (who is Hegseth, who is fundamentalist). They don't make the decision. The President does. And Trump isn't a fundamentalist. He is barely Christian.
America doesn't run itself in terms of religion. It's not a fundamentalist christian government.
And this war has nothing to do with Epstein. That's tiresome to try to claim it is.
So why we go to war then?
I mean no nukes in Iran, Ayatollah was 86. Troops were told it’s a Holy War. It’s wildly unpopular at home. Makes Trump look like an idiot in terms of “no new wars & stabilizing the economy.”Wasn’t approved by Congress. Been in the ME for a quarter century. Came right after the JE files were exposed. Clearly pressured by Israel.
Just to name a few shoddy reasons for this boondoggle.
So why then?
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(03-11-2026, 11:35 AM)Kurokage Wrote: In both First and Second World Wars, America came late to the game, before that they benefited financially from all sides....
Britain finally finished paying back America for it's 'efforts' in World War 2 in December 2006.
Care to post any links for your comments about the Falklands as we went in on our own? Again America only profited from the supply of missiles and fuel they supplied.
Totally false about British steel and Trump my friend..
As this is off topic I wont go on ripping apart the rest of your defence, but suffice to say nearly all of it is incorrect. 
It is verging off topic but I stand by my statements. Have fun
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(03-11-2026, 11:35 AM)andy06shake Wrote: We need each other, Orby.
We have a special relationship with America because we helped build their nation.
They are us, and we are them.
They speak our language and have the same names because we are their ancestors.
As to "Maggie" she's burning in hell next to her best pal Jimmy Savile.
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The two of them are waiting on Andrew and Charles by all accounts. 
A bit unfair about Maggie. Our nation was booming once she'd put our Commie leaders to the furnace, along with all their outdated industries. locally Rolls was booming, as was Courtaulds, our train manufacturer too, plus she brought in Toyota to Burnaston through here policies of bring in the Japs and German industry to our new industrial parks. A legend to me, sorry for that. the greatest since disraeli.
On the Yanks we certainly are in need of them and Trump wanted this too. Trump is the typical American. Half British descent, half German. He encompases everything good that Europe sent to that new world in the Americas. G-d bless him and the Yanks.
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(03-11-2026, 11:51 AM)Orby Wrote: It is verging off topic but I stand by my statements. Have fun
Well, even a quick google search can poke large holes in your statements, let alone actual learnt knowledge and facts.
Educating yourself is how we combat 'fake' news before it spreads, my friend.
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(03-11-2026, 11:50 AM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: So why we go to war then?
It absolutely wasn't about religion on our part.
- Iran really was developing nukes and has already promised to use them to wipe out Israel, America and the allies.
- Bibi wanted to protect Israel AND he needs a war to keep his job and stay out of jail
- America got played and pulled into a war for Israel.
All of those three are my most likely guesses for war. Maybe all three are true.
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(03-11-2026, 11:58 AM)Orby Wrote: A bit unfair about Maggie. Our nation was booming once she'd put our Commie leaders to the furnace, along with all their outdated industries. locally Rolls was booming, as was Courtaulds, our train manufacturer too, plus she brought in Toyota to Burnaston through here policies of bring in the Japs and German industry to our new industrial parks. A legend to me, sorry for that. the greatest since disraeli.
On the Yanks we certainly are in need of them and Trump wanted this too. Trump is the typical American. Half British descent, half German. He encompases everything good that Europe sent to that new world in the Americas. G-d bless him and the Yanks.
Maggie sold off all those industries you've listed. Please tell us all what happened to them?? They were all stripped to the bone by those foreign companies.
The only good thing Maggie did was defend the Falklands.
To bring this back on topic...
I will say if Maggie was still in charge she would've been straight on the phone ripping into man-child Trump for his nasty comments.
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(03-11-2026, 12:03 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: It absolutely wasn't about religion on our part.
- Iran really was developing nukes and has already promised to use them to wipe out Israel, America and the allies.
- Bibi wanted to protect Israel AND he needs a war to keep his job and stay out of jail
- America got played and pulled into a war for Israel.
All of those three are my most likely guesses for war. Maybe all three are true.
Okay then. Thanks for honesty.
Yet America is being played by Trump. And Trump got played by Bibi.
So none of these sound like justification. Because they aren’t.
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(03-11-2026, 11:58 AM)Orby Wrote: A bit unfair about Maggie. Our nation was booming once she'd put our Commie leaders to the furnace, along with all their outdated industries. locally Rolls was booming, as was Courtaulds, our train manufacturer too, plus she brought in Toyota to Burnaston through here policies of bring in the Japs and German industry to our new industrial parks. A legend to me, sorry for that. the greatest since disraeli.
On the Yanks we certainly are in need of them and Trump wanted this too. Trump is the typical American. Half British descent, half German. He encompases everything good that Europe sent to that new world in the Americas. G-d bless him and the Yanks.
She stole wean's milk and destroyed entire communities Orby.
Hated with a passion where I hail from.
Same with the majority of the North of England.
How is Trump a typical American?
Nothing typical about the fella.
Born with a silver spoon where the sun doesn't shine.
And extended privilege and power because of his family.
Is it typical for people to get $1 million loans from their father?
He's ""one of them.""
And if God exists, St. Peter's is going to be wanting a word or two at those pearly gates, methinks.
He knows perfectly well his name's not down and he's not getting in, fella has even called it on his own.
Quote:It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(03-11-2026, 12:03 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: - Iran really was developing nukes and has already promised to use them to wipe out Israel, America and the allies.
Those same nukes that have been only a few weeks away since about 1996.
That old Chestnut?
Anyhoo, that research and capability were completely obliterated last June, remember?
Else somebody is telling more porkies...
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Hillary Clinton praising 2nd term Trump
Either she's raking in on the current grift or she's been promised protection from Epstein consequences
Probably both
https://x.com/LegendaryEnergy/status/203...06777?s=20
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