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(03-29-2026, 11:21 AM)angelchemuel Wrote: I stand corrected, thank you.
But we didn't "ask for help" as Carpy implied.
We paid for those missiles, so there is that.
Rainbows,
Jane
We always pay our way, Jane.
Eventually, but it gets done...
I hate the Iron Lady with a passion.
I think we both know that.
But I'll tell you one thing.
She would not entertain Trump's fantasies, delusions, or accusations...
Nor would she happily be Bibi's lapdog or attack hound.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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03-29-2026, 11:28 AM
This post was last modified: 03-29-2026, 11:32 AM by worldstarcountry. 
Radio Personality Kim Iversen interviews an Israeli discussing the societal pulse right now in Israel.
Yemeni society seems to be giving their full support to Iran ... with the typical Yemeni Death to America, Israel and KSA chant. Of course one could joke about dropping a bomb right there, but then one would just admit they are the very monster they claim to fight, and simply do not like competition.
Iranians continue to support the regime ...
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03-29-2026, 11:30 AM
This post was last modified: 03-29-2026, 11:42 AM by Kurokage. 
(03-29-2026, 10:27 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Ive said repeatedly Trump's lower gas prices were a boon for me, so I love those low gas prices
But I have daughters... these azzholes would kill my daughters and not give it a second thought
Lower gas prices
VS
Fanatical Ayatollahs of Iran continue to brutalize women,
shoot missiles across the whole gulf region?
The Free World has a limited window, 4-6 weeks would be my guess. Right now, it's half a day at a time.
Before they go in, they will exhaust all other options.
I do tend to read your posts as most of the time they aren't aimed at individuals and your not focused on trying to make members who disagree with you look anti-American or terrorist supporters. less about the strawman arguments. It's always beneficial to try to understand both sides of any argument even if you don't agree with it.
As for this war in Iran...
I disagree with the way Trump rushed into his war, and what most see as Netanyahu and his U.S. allies manipulating him into doing so. Also the fact that the way he's managing this battle seems to change on a daily basis. After all, he supposedly already won three weeks ago and now it's a build up to boots on the ground? What for?
America's closest NATO allies would always be ready to support any threat but surely it must be in included from the beginning, in agreement and also legal. Wouldn't anyone want that?
Most on here agree that at some point the Iranian regime will need confronting and it's it atrocities aimed at it's own people beggar belief, but those same people also see this as double standards when compared to Ukraine and Trump's special friendship with Putin. Trump was happy to use the no foreign wars dogma then??
Also the fact that Trump has rushed head first into this with what appears like very little planning (even some of his own people have said as such) has done nothing but destabilise the the worlds economies and caused utter chaos.
A lot of the middle east brutalise woman and other minority groups, but a lot of western leaders do cozy up to them, and Trump is happy to take more bling than most for his support. I don't see anyone on here being outraged about that??
See, it's as simple as just demonizing Iran when some others in the area are just as guilty but hide it better.
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning."
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(03-29-2026, 10:33 AM)Vermilion Wrote: Those Middle East countries are letting us use their land for our military bases and are helping fight Iran.
Then there’s this…
UK blocking Trump from using RAF bases for strikes on Iran
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/art...JZrA%3D%3D
And this…
France will never take part in operations to unblock Hormuz Strait amid hostilities, says Macron
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/202...ostilities
Allies in name only.. 
So wrong!!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c36rny6xgppo
Quote:UK allows US to use bases to strike Strait of Hormuz targets.The UK has agreed to allow the US to use British bases to launch strikes on Iranian sites targeting the Strait of Hormuz.
Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer previously allowed US forces to use the bases only for defensive operations to prevent Iran firing missiles that put British interests or lives at risk.
Downing Street said on Friday that ministers had approved an expansion of the targets to help protect ships in the vital oil shipping channel, still on the basis of "collective self-defence".
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning."
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(03-29-2026, 11:11 AM)IDELB2006 Wrote: Interesting. So you are admitting to being wrong about everything you've said about Europe.
“Unblocking Hormuz is a middle east problem.”
Did you not say that?
Nothing to worry about then.
Carry on, but no more crying about Hormuz.
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03-29-2026, 11:37 AM
This post was last modified: 03-29-2026, 12:09 PM by Kurokage. 
(03-29-2026, 11:08 AM)worldstarcountry Wrote: General Douglas Macgregor has a deep dive strategy discussion on the war itself with Daniel Davis, and the logistics of the ground incursion, which does not bode well for anyone who tries, the USA included.
[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl_8LaoXJEc]
This video has images that made it out of one of our E3 Sentries having been put out of commission on the ground. Allegedly six strato-tankers were also struck, destroying three damaging three others. Thats quite an expensive failure there.
[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZV33-GihzQ]
British Citizens in the UAE under arrest for sharing coverage of active strikes.
[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkEnNYzZzM4]
It's known that both Russia and China are supplying tactical data to Iran, I wonder if Trump is on the phone to his best mate Putin about this??
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(03-29-2026, 10:42 AM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I don’t think anyone in this thread has ever implied that Iran is going to “win”.
Many do realize that everyone can lose though.
I think this is an important statement that needs to stand alone.
Yes! Everyone can lose.
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(03-29-2026, 11:34 AM)Vermilion Wrote: “Unblocking Hormuz is a middle east problem.”
Did you not say that?
Nothing to worry about then.
Carry on, but no more crying about Hormuz.
Sure, if you you want to cherry pick.
then you were also wrong about Europe, and the USA involvement in Iran. I am glad we finally agree in that.
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03-29-2026, 11:45 AM
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(03-29-2026, 11:34 AM)Vermilion Wrote: “Unblocking Hormuz is a middle east problem.”
Did you not say that?
Nothing to worry about then.
Carry on, but no more crying about Hormuz.
Maybe you should also stop crying about Britain not allowing the U.S. to use it's British bases??
If there'd been any actual planning around the attack on Iran, Trump would've had a plan to keep the Straits open instead of crying to Europe about having no support??
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(03-29-2026, 11:45 AM)Kurokage Wrote: Maybe you should also stop crying about Britain not allowing the U.S. to use it's British bases??
If there'd been any actual planning around the attack on Iran, Trump would've had a plan to keep the Straits open instead of crying to Europe about having no support??
IF closing Hormuz is such a big deal, why aren’t the brits or the frogs doing anything about it?
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