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Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war
(03-13-2025, 01:50 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Yes, I used to work with a woman I respected a lot, who was from Romania, all of her family is still there, as of 2010 or so.

Her family was wary of organized crime in Romania and compared it to Russian and Ukrainian in its depth and how much it influences governments.

'Funnily' enough my family also worked in Romania before they joined EU. Funny how that works out
When I was there the potholes were so large I watched one swallow up one of the commie-cars whole.
The frame got stuck and the top half just kept on skidding, lol
This was about 2002 2003 ish. 
Its much nicer now.
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(03-13-2025, 01:53 PM)sahgwa Wrote: You literally read nothing I posted.
I knew it was pointless.

I did read, and replied.

Directly on point to what you posted.
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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I thought you would be able to read between the lines and do some deductive reasoning, some inference. 
If the Ukrainian parliament was full of thugs before , why wouldn't it be now? It is only 5 or so years since the last person I called out was in office (2019)
Did Zelensky entering office magically clean it up?
Also, when a new President takes office does that automatically replace the cabinet or parliament?
Also the NBC article was from 2 years ago. 
Still not enough for you?
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(03-13-2025, 02:10 PM)sahgwa Wrote: I thought you would be able to read between the lines and do some deductive reasoning, some inference. 
If the Ukrainian parliament was full of thugs before , why wouldn't it be now? It is only 5 or so years since the last person I called out was in office (2019)
Did Zelensky entering office magically clean it up?
Also, when a new President takes office does that automatically replace the cabinet or parliament?
Also the NBC article was from 2 years ago. 
Still not enough for you?

Not really.

Has Zelensky offed any political opponents?

2019?

Your source gives the dates.

Simple as.

Your boy Putin is a massive thug and wrote the book on massive corruption.

There is simply no comparison.
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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(03-13-2025, 03:09 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Not really.

Has Zelensky offed any political opponents?

2019?

Your source gives the dates.

Simple as.

Your boy Putin is a massive thug and wrote the book on massive corruption.

There is simply no comparison.

'My boy' ?!?! wtf
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
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(03-13-2025, 03:09 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Not really.

Has Zelensky offed any political opponents?

Gonzalo Lira? 
https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/2...raine.html
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(03-13-2025, 03:12 PM)sahgwa Wrote: Gonzalo Lira? 
https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/2...raine.html


https://www.newsweek.com/who-gonzalo-lir...il-1860496

"Lira added that he was tortured in prison by other inmates, which saw him beaten and sleep-deprived, with his "arms twisted the wrong way around at the shoulder."

These allegations were strenuously denied by Sarah Ashton-Cirillo, a former American journalist who became a sergeant in the Ukrainian army, in an interview with Business Insider. Ashton-Cirillo said: "In an effort to gain sympathy, Gonzalo Lira made up allegations of abuse and torture. As someone who spoke to him shortly after he was returned to custody, it was clear that he was in good health and treated extremely fairly by the state security services."


Lap up Tucker Carlson and his simpering Russian propaganda.

Would you like a list of Putins murdered political opponents?

It's a lot longer than what you have managed to dredge up.

Are you fine with that?

Putin used a nerve agent around the corner from where I was working at the time.

A police officer was hospitalized and an innocent member of the public, who I had met, died.

Seriously?
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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(03-13-2025, 03:26 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: https://www.newsweek.com/who-gonzalo-lir...il-1860496

"Lira added that he was tortured in prison by other inmates, which saw him beaten and sleep-deprived, with his "arms twisted the wrong way around at the shoulder."

These allegations were strenuously denied by Sarah Ashton-Cirillo, a former American journalist who became a sergeant in the Ukrainian army, in an interview with Business Insider. Ashton-Cirillo said: "In an effort to gain sympathy, Gonzalo Lira made up allegations of abuse and torture. As someone who spoke to him shortly after he was returned to custody, it was clear that he was in good health and treated extremely fairly by the state security services."


Lap up Tucker Carlson and his simpering Russian propaganda.

Would you like a list of Putins murdered political opponents?

It's a lot longer than what you have managed to dredge up.

Are you fine with that?

Putin used a nerve agent around the corner from where I was working at the time.

A police officer was hospitalized and an innocent member of the public, who I had met, died.

Seriously?

Seriously?
I am not fine with anyone murdering anyone. 

Anyone can counter with 'propaganda!" it's an easy job. 
 Lira's family is convinced he was murdered.

Myself and a lot of people here , are merely try to get you to admit that Ukraine is also corrupt.  Simple as that.
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(03-13-2025, 03:26 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: https://www.newsweek.com/who-gonzalo-lir...il-1860496

"Lira added that he was tortured in prison by other inmates, which saw him beaten and sleep-deprived, with his "arms twisted the wrong way around at the shoulder."

These allegations were strenuously denied by Sarah Ashton-Cirillo, a former American journalist who became a sergeant in the Ukrainian army, in an interview with Business Insider. Ashton-Cirillo said: "In an effort to gain sympathy, Gonzalo Lira made up allegations of abuse and torture. As someone who spoke to him shortly after he was returned to custody, it was clear that he was in good health and treated extremely fairly by the state security services."


Lap up Tucker Carlson and his simpering Russian propaganda.

Would you like a list of Putins murdered political opponents?

It's a lot longer than what you have managed to dredge up.

Are you fine with that?

Putin used a nerve agent around the corner from where I was working at the time.

A police officer was hospitalized and an innocent member of the public, who I had met, died.

Seriously?

And because it  doesn't meet your world view, Helsinki Times is Russian Propaganda (Guess what, Finland joined NATO ,guess they will have to scrub that story)
but because Newsweek agrees better to you, it is not propaganda.
Again, we know how that works.
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(03-13-2025, 03:40 PM)sahgwa Wrote: And because it  doesn't meet your world view, Helsinki Times is Russian Propaganda (Guess what, Finland joined NATO ,guess they will have to scrub that story)
but because Newsweek agrees better to you, it is not propaganda.
Again, we know how that works.

I didn't say Helsinki Times was Russian propaganda.

I said Tucker Carlson was.

As for not meeting your World view.....pot, kettle?
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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