Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war

[Oldcarpy2]

"If this ceasefire is not respected by themselves then they can't say 'if Russia agrees.'"

There is no ceasefire yet, the ball is in Russia's court now.

But, yes, obviously.

[Oldcarpy2]

"Using the argument of "They're being invaded" isn't a good qualifier for continuing the fight. Hell, the US is being invaded by terror cells from south of the boarder and from China through the Northern Boarder, does that qualify the US into allowing rocket and drone strikes into Mexico and China? No, it doesn't."

Of course not.

But Ukraine is actually at war and being actually invaded so your analogy is completely otiose, and frankly, silly.

[sahgwa]

Lets end this forced 'recruitment' 

[guyfriday]

But Ukraine is actually at war and being actually invaded so your analogy is completely otiose, and frankly, silly.

You clearly are not aware of the issues being faced at the boarder. The only reason we are not at war on the boarder is because it hasn't been declared.


Also you might want to go look at what caused this war and understand the full reasoning behind what happened before going off about it. I think this whole mess has been protracted by the EU and NATO -US. This being said if you want to be sympathetic towards Ukraine, I really hope it's towards the plight of the people there and not that stupid Zelensky Administration.

This war could have been over years ago, but greed, grifting, and EU and NATO trying to power grab is the real problem here.

[FlyersFan]

Ukraine said it wants a cease-fire yet this morning they launched a rocket attack into Russian territory. That attack was unprovoked. 

Unprovoked?
Nope.  Try again.
Russia has been pounding the snot out of Ukraine.
Even after Ukraine agreed to a 30 day ceasefire.

[putnam6]

Where is Mr Hanson wrong?

[Oldcarpy2]

"Where is Mr Hanson wrong?"

Would you apply the same logic to WW1?

Or WW2?

Or the UK and other European countries aiding the US in it's War On Terror? What if we had said "Fight your own war in Afghanistan"?

[Oldcarpy2]

You clearly are not aware of the issues being faced at the boarder. The only reason we are not at war on the boarder is because it hasn't been declared.


Also you might want to go look at what caused this war and understand the full reasoning behind what happened before going off about it. I think this whole mess has been protracted by the EU and NATO -US. This being said if you want to be sympathetic towards Ukraine, I really hope it's towards the plight of the people there and not that stupid Zelensky Administration.

This war could have been over years ago, but greed, grifting, and EU and NATO trying to power grab is the real problem here.

What "issues"?

"Power grab"?

That's what Putin is doing.

Yes, I am more concerned about the Ukrainian people, rather than it's Administration.

Why do you need to ask?

Doesn't seem that Russia is even interested in the proposed cease fire.

So much for Putin wanting peace.

[UltraBudgie]

So much for Putin wanting peace.

The recent policy paper that was 'leaked' from Moscow yesterday says quite clearly that they are only considering a "peace" that they can reliably expect to last longer than the current US Presidential administration. To them, that include regime change in Kiev, as well as a buffer zone between Ukraine and the eastern territories, which they are unwilling to give up due to their Russian national affiliation. Problem is, that affects eastern Odessa, which I believe we've already highlighted as a strategic naval sticking-point.

Edit: If you haven't read the paper, it's referenced here. This leak could reasonably be considered Moscow's "response" to Trump's overture.

[Oldcarpy2]

The recent policy paper that was 'leaked' from Moscow yesterday says quite clearly that they are only considering a "peace" that they can reliably expect to last longer than the current US Presidential administration. To them, that include regime change in Kiev, as well as a buffer zone between Ukraine and the eastern territories, which they are unwilling to give up due to their Russian national affiliation. Problem is, that affects eastern Odessa, which I believe we've already highlighted as a strategic naval sticking-point.

Edit: If you haven't read the paper, it's referenced here. This leak could reasonably be considered Moscow's "response" to Trump's overture.

Do you mean this one?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...14224.html