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(03-11-2025, 05:47 PM)guyfriday Wrote: This is a going to be tough, Ukraine did that drone attack on Moscow earlier today. You can't just ask for a cease-fire right after attacking your opponent's home. If Putin takes this up it will show the world that both Russia and the US are the only ones that really wanted peace to begin with, and Ukraine just wanted blood for some reason, while the EU and NATO-US just wanted laundered money.
I hope this war is over, but even if it is I feel that certain members of NATO-US will try to start something else. I mean look at what the EU is trying to do in Romania.
I don't think Ukraine wants this war.
Question now is, is Putin willing to make any concessions. None at all so far.
What is the EU doing in Romania?
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(03-12-2025, 08:35 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: I don't think Ukraine wants this war.
Question now is, is Putin willing to make any concessions. None at all so far.
What is the EU doing in Romania?
Ukraine said it wants a cease-fire yet this morning they launched a rocket attack into Russian territory. That attack was unprovoked.
Barred from Romania’s presidential election rerun, Calin Georgescu appeals decision at top court | AP News
Quote:BUCHAREST, Romania (AP) — Romanian far-right populist Calin Georgescu, who was barred from running in a presidential election redo, appealed the electoral body’s decision to a top court on Monday. He won the first round of last year’s race before the same court annulled the election.
The 62-year-old Georgescu lodged his appeal with Romania’s Constitutional Court in the capital Bucharest, a day after the Central Election Bureau rejected his candidacy, the court said. It said there would be a hearing on Tuesday, but it will have until Wednesday to issue a ruling, 48 hours from when the appeal was submitted.
George Simion, a close political ally of Georgescu who denounced the electoral body’s decision as a “coup d’état,” said on Monday that the bureau “does not have the right to reject a candidate when all the requirements regarding documents, signatures and forms are met. All the conditions related to a candidacy file have been fulfilled.”
reports are saying that the EU pushed for this courts decision due to Georgescu's belief that nations should be concerned about themselves first. The EU has voiced concerns about "Trump like Politicians" getting into power.
This smells like when Zelensky was planning on having a peace talk with Russia during the beginning of their war and Boris Johnson and members of the EU pushed for him to not hold that peace talk. Now ask yourself, "Does the EU or Ukraine really want peace?"
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""Unprovoked"?
Ukraine is at war with Russia. It's being invaded, it's being attacked with missiles, bombs, drones and shells.
Do you have any sources about EU influence in Romania?
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(03-12-2025, 09:33 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: ""Unprovoked"?
Ukraine is at war with Russia. It's being invaded, it's being attacked with missiles, bombs, drones and shells.
Do you have any sources about EU influence in Romania?
Ukraine launched a rocket attack while the Russians were doing nothing today, just like yesterday when they made a drone attack on Moscow for no reason before stating they wanted a cease-fire. If you really want to play the game of "This war blah blah blah", then you're never going to see that this war could end if both sides really wanted to stop fighting. Putin has stated this, but Zelensky has stated that he needs to fight.
Using the argument of "They're being invaded" isn't a good qualifier for continuing the fight. Hell, the US is being invaded by terror cells from south of the boarder and from China through the Northern Boarder, does that qualify the US into allowing rocket and drone strikes into Mexico and China? No, it doesn't.
Yesterday the facts that the EU's hands were all over this election mess in Romania was hard to miss, today it's all but scrubbed from the internet. Censoring isn't anything new to the EU.
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EU has already been caught giving money to propaganda outlets to make itself look like it is supported by the average person, it's that bad.
https://brussels.mcc.hu/publication/the-...ote-itself
My least favourite part about it is the unelected bureaucrats decide what the elected officials and the people under them can and can't do. Its technofascism using an inhumane and inhuman climate cult as supposed justification.
And yes the recent attacks by Ukraine were really a show of bad faith.
If this ceasefire is not respected by themselves then they can't say 'if Russia agrees.'
I am going to play optimistic and say that they hadn't gotten the word yet to call it off.
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(03-12-2025, 11:29 AM)guyfriday Wrote: Ukraine launched a rocket attack while the Russians were doing nothing today, just like yesterday when they made a drone attack on Moscow for no reason before stating they wanted a cease-fire. If you really want to play the game of "This war blah blah blah", then you're never going to see that this war could end if both sides really wanted to stop fighting. Putin has stated this, but Zelensky has stated that he needs to fight.
Using the argument of "They're being invaded" isn't a good qualifier for continuing the fight. Hell, the US is being invaded by terror cells from south of the boarder and from China through the Northern Boarder, does that qualify the US into allowing rocket and drone strikes into Mexico and China? No, it doesn't.
Yesterday the facts that the EU's hands were all over this election mess in Romania was hard to miss, today it's all but scrubbed from the internet. Censoring isn't anything new to the EU.
So you can't post any evidence cos it's "scrubbed from the internet" ?
I suppose poor innocent Russia was just sitting there, all peaceful and innocent like, when those evil Ukrainians launched their own attack?
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"If this ceasefire is not respected by themselves then they can't say 'if Russia agrees.'"
There is no ceasefire yet, the ball is in Russia's court now.
But, yes, obviously.
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"Using the argument of "They're being invaded" isn't a good qualifier for continuing the fight. Hell, the US is being invaded by terror cells from south of the boarder and from China through the Northern Boarder, does that qualify the US into allowing rocket and drone strikes into Mexico and China? No, it doesn't."
Of course not.
But Ukraine is actually at war and being actually invaded so your analogy is completely otiose, and frankly, silly.
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Lets end this forced 'recruitment'
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(03-12-2025, 12:45 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: But Ukraine is actually at war and being actually invaded so your analogy is completely otiose, and frankly, silly.
You clearly are not aware of the issues being faced at the boarder. The only reason we are not at war on the boarder is because it hasn't been declared.
Also you might want to go look at what caused this war and understand the full reasoning behind what happened before going off about it. I think this whole mess has been protracted by the EU and NATO -US. This being said if you want to be sympathetic towards Ukraine, I really hope it's towards the plight of the people there and not that stupid Zelensky Administration.
This war could have been over years ago, but greed, grifting, and EU and NATO trying to power grab is the real problem here.
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