Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war

[putnam6]

Here's another one I pulled out of my bum:

https://yougov.co.uk/international/artic...nald-trump

See this is where America diverges from the UK and Europe because you think it's a popularity contest, a beauty pageant. 

While atleast some Americans are realizing it might take an azzhole to change the paradigm and move its country to a place with a more solid disciplined foundation.



America has been off course for a while and needed accounting auditing and refurbishing.

We hoped the UK and Europe could put on their big boy knickers, panties, and thongs and be disciplined and responsible instead you are aimlessly drifting towards an Islamic Caliphate and an endless bloody war with Russia 

Respectfully most Americans disagree with your direction and wonder what types of leaders would think this is the correct path.

Nothing wrong with immigration perse America was built on it voluntarily or otherwise but it has to be controlled measured and tightly regulated you can let every Tom, Dick, and Achmed into your country and let them have freedoms and financial assistance all the while many don't assimilate with the rest

genuinely hope both the UK and Europe get thier shit together, America's is trying to do the same....it was well past time. 

this is becoming normalized ...its seems

https://x.com/Basil_TGMD/status/1860353213737701793

 

[quintessentone]

Simulators and talks about nuclear protection do not equal continued procurement of F-16s in numbers that will make a difference

Well aware the first shipments were approved and will likely go through, but if they can't get continual support, parts, and pilots they will become problematic. Thats all by design BTW. Hell one country had a couple of old F-16 airframes and they had to get approval from the Biden administration.

But that was a different administration and at that time we were looking at a drawn-out war ahead now we are moving toward peace talks. 

On top of if the EU's want their F-35s they might have to do as OMB wants for the near term and that remains to be seen

The only way moving forward with peace talks directly with Putin is a show of strength in military capabilities and perhaps continuing to take Putin's economy down to levels that he can not withstand.

Turkiye and Sweden are prepared to put 'peacekeeping' boots on the ground today, if necessary.

France is now providing Ukraine with vital intelligence against Putin.

[FlyersFan]

That jedi mind trick works good on you to pretend that NATO has nothing to do with this. It worked goof on you with the Israel / Palestine conflict too cheering on for team meat grinder.

If you want to seriously be involved in conflict resolution, it starts by looking at both sides of the conflict.

Try again.

You didn't look at the article I posted, did ya'?  Nope.

Russia was wrong for invading.   But it also gives the information about what Ukraine did wrong.  How Zelenskyy was poking the (Russian) bear.    

As I said.  BOTH Russia and Ukraine are not the good guys.   Russia shouldn't have invaded.   Putin used Zelenskyys behavior as an excuse for his expansionistic ideals.   But Zelenskyy isn't without fault too.

Do yourself a favor next time ... read the article I posted before commenting.

[FlyersFan]

We hoped the UK and Europe could put on their big boy knickers, panties, and thongs and be disciplined and responsible instead you are aimlessly drifting towards an Islamic Caliphate and an endless bloody war with Russia 

EXCELLENT ... except you forgot to add .... 'an endless bloody war with Russia THAT THEY WANT THE UNITED STATES TO PAY FOR TO KEEP THEM SAFE.'

[putnam6]

EXCELLENT ... except you forgot to add .... 'an endless bloody war with Russia THAT THEY WANT THE UNITED STATES TO PAY FOR TO KEEP THEM SAFE.'

Exactly 

and if we refuse we are all Putin's communist nuthuggers... It's ridiculous and completely unhinged

[quintessentone]

Exactly 

and if we refuse we are all Putin's communist nuthuggers... It's ridiculous and completely unhinged

Didn't Trump just make a trade deal with Putin for aluminum? What is ridiculous and completely unhinged is ignoring the obvious.

[Kwaka]

Try again.

I will pass. Let you when I am in the mood to bang my head against a wall. Thanks.

[Oldcarpy2]

"See this is where America diverges from the UK and Europe because you think it's a popularity contest, a beauty pageant."

I think you might have that backwards. Over here Brits are more focused on policies and actions.

Whereas the US voter seems more focused on personality, cults.

[putnam6]

The only way moving forward with peace talks directly with Putin is a show of strength in military capabilities and perhaps continuing to take Putin's economy down to levels that he can not withstand.

Turkiye and Sweden are prepared to put 'peacekeeping' boots on the ground today, if necessary.

France is now providing Ukraine with vital intelligence against Putin.

Yeah, America is aware of what the concept is/was, but we just can't foot the bill, without a realistic timeframe and a coherent plan beyond we ae going to outspend Russia. 

One has to ask why UK and Europe waited so long to pony up, instead of just saying screw it let America do it. 

One reason is that usually militarily it works better if everything is of one plan including logistics, I hope the UK/EU Ukraine emerges completely victorious 

After 20-plus years in Iraq and Afghanistan America's military needs to regroup and reassess its priorities, China is still there and is a legitimate concern. We need to rebuild our stockpiles

[putnam6]

"See this is where America diverges from the UK and Europe because you think it's a popularity contest, a beauty pageant."

I think you might have that backwards. Over here Brits are more focused on policies and actions.

Whereas the US voter seems more focused on personality, cults.

Do you mean policies that favor immigrants and actions that jail commoners for social media posts? 

Policies that attach 67 million people to a bloody, expensive, and endless war

Have at it, Nigel... 

There's nothing wrong with being on different paths...Im not suggesting you should change your mind, just America is asserting its right to change its mind in this particular war in this moment in time.

If the UK and Europe want to get pissy after the last 80 years of strong diplomatic ties, thats OK to get pissy, we tried it for 3 years the frontlines are static and well-established whats the battleplan Montgomery?

Because respectfully the current Allied plan sounds the exact opposite of the tactics he would employ in Ukraine

speaking of WWII analogies and all