02-28-2025, 03:40 PM
It wasn't me that said about Zelensky gambling with WW3, that was Trump.
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war
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02-28-2025, 03:40 PM
It wasn't me that said about Zelensky gambling with WW3, that was Trump.
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
02-28-2025, 03:51 PM
This post was last modified 02-28-2025, 04:06 PM by putnam6. Edited 2 times in total. 
(02-28-2025, 03:40 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: It wasn't me that said about Zelensky gambling with WW3, that was Trump. It's called negotiations, Trump also said with Starmer he supports Article 5 but hopes it won't have to be used. Right or wrong he is applying pressure to get a peace deal. No more no less. Putin knows not one inch of NATO land which is about the only true words Biden spoke of. Here's the Ukrainian ambassador as Zelensky goes off on his schpiel ![]() ![]()
His mind was not for rent to any god or government, always hopeful yet discontent. Knows changes aren't permanent, but change is ....
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart
02-28-2025, 04:01 PM
Negotiations?
Two faced bullying, more like. One minute Trump is calling Zelensky an unpopular dictator, next he's saying he never said that. The man's a maggot.
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
02-28-2025, 04:01 PM
In far right sectors of Ukraine this cockup of a meeting is being seen as a huge positive for Zelensky. Not sure if I agree or not. It was all very fuddled.
Meme doing the rounds of Ukrainian flag with единствЕнная страна которая не проГнулась ПоД сша written On top. 'The only country that didn't cave in to the US' Hmm
02-28-2025, 04:05 PM
Any chance of a source?
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
02-28-2025, 04:09 PM
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02-28-2025, 04:11 PM
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The bottom line is there is no realistic path to Ukrainian victory without billions more being spent AND getting troops from another country to supplement Ukraine same as it was in February of 2022
There will be no overthrow of Putin or back down anytime soon unfortunately it's just the reality Zelensky may have screwed himself he wanted to be like and America President and now he is Quote:
His mind was not for rent to any god or government, always hopeful yet discontent. Knows changes aren't permanent, but change is ....
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart
02-28-2025, 04:12 PM
Not downloading that?
Do you subscribe?
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
02-28-2025, 04:15 PM
(02-28-2025, 04:11 PM)putnam6 Wrote: The bottom line is there is no realistic path to Ukrainian victory without billions more being spent AND getting troops from another country to supplement Ukraine same as it was in February of 2022 (02-28-2025, 04:12 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Not downloading that? You should be able to just read it directly - I am not logged in. Any way. . . I hope things can get mended. It's all very stupid.
02-28-2025, 04:15 PM
"The bottom line is there is no realistic path to Ukrainian victory without billions more being spent AND getting troops from another country to supplement Ukraine same as it was in February of 2022"
The bottom line is not fighting for a Ukrainian victory, they are fighting for their existence as a sovereign country.
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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