Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war

[Oldcarpy2]

"Zelensky got told some hard truths... wild glimpse of diplomacy in action and it did make for great TV".

That wasn't diplomacy, it was bullying.

Vance is a nasty piece of work. Him plus Musk = destruction of the US and martial law.

Trump will be a useful idiot for his handlers.

[quintessentone]

"Zelensky got told some hard truths... wild glimpse of diplomacy in action and it did make for great TV".

That wasn't diplomacy, it was bullying.

Vance is a nasty piece of work. Him plus Musk = destruction of the US and martial law.

Trump will be a useful idiot for his handlers.

Zelensky stated he wanted security measures and that is when Trump went into Trump TV mode.

[putnam6]

Time will tell let it reverberate throughout Ukraine Europe and Russia.. we will see

[putnam6]

"Zelensky got told some hard truths... wild glimpse of diplomacy in action and it did make for great TV".

That wasn't diplomacy, it was bullying.

Vance is a nasty piece of work. Him plus Musk = destruction of the US and martial law.

Trump will be a useful idiot for his handlers.

[Oldcarpy2]

Time will tell let it reverberate throughout Ukraine Europe and Russia.. we will see

It sure will reverberate, in history.

Not in a good way.

Call me hyperbolic, but Trump and Vance do it better.

[putnam6]

It sure will reverberate, in history.

Not in a good way.

Call me hyperbolic, but Trump and Vance do it better.

left out the crucial "fear-mongering"

Im used to politicians being hyperbolic its the over the top fear mongering

[quintessentone]

It sure will reverberate, in history.

Not in a good way.

Call me hyperbolic, but Trump and Vance do it better.

It is reported that Zelensky specifically insisted on security measures one day before his meeting with Trump, why didn't Trump say 'no way' then? TrumpTV for the gullible watchers. By the way, Zelensky abruptly left the very white house after that shitshow.

[sahgwa]

Zelensky's words were taken as disrespectful and also threats.  Whether they were meant as such I cannot say.

What I can say is that if he doesn't get back with Trump and help sign a peace deal, USA will pull all funding, and the war hungry EU hawks will keep supplying weapons and bellicose rhetoric and things will only get worse.  Hopefully completely without us, at that point.

[putnam6]

It is reported that Zelensky specifically insisted on security measures one day before his meeting with Trump, why didn't Trump say 'no way' then? TrumpTV for the gullible watchers. By the way, Zelensky abruptly left the very white house after that shitshow.

So what's Zelensky's/EU plan?

How does Ukraine survive without American weapons? or intelligence capabilities which have been crucial throughout the war. 

They have only fought to a stalemate with said weapons and intelligence...

[quintessentone]

So what's Zelensky's/EU plan?

How does Ukraine survive without American weapons? or intelligence capabilities which have been crucial throughout the war. 

They have only fought to a stalemate with said weapons and intelligence...

Hey, I agree with you on the stalemate state of it all.

But it appears Russia did not keep it's agreements in the past, so Zelensky asking for security assurances is a reasonable ask.

Time will tell as to how EU and other countries step up to secure their regions and help Ukraine's efforts in this war.

It has also been reported, or speculated, that Putin can only afford this war for another 18 months, so we will see how far this will go.

I hope it can be stopped now, but I said from the start that Ukraine needs security assurances and Russia wants to keep whatever land it can get. Putin also stated that he wants to 'free' all the countries surrounding Iran. So we can get an idea of the reality of the situation.

Russia and Ukraine have a long and bloody history and I hope it stops here.