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I think you don't do math.

Or read your own sources. Which are from 2023.

https://kyivindependent.com/poll-ukraini...i-is-high/

This is just disengenuos.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(02-18-2025, 04:09 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: I think you don't do math.

Or read your own sources. Which are from 2023.

https://kyivindependent.com/poll-ukraini...i-is-high/

This is just disengenuos.

2023 is the most recent I could find in searching for his approval rating.

How is his TRUST being at 62%, not roughly equal to 4 people NOT TRUSTING him? surely that math is good enough for you? 

You are extremely irritating. 
And it's spelt disingenuous. 

'Ukrainians' trust in Zelensky declines to 62%'
(02-18-2025, 03:52 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: "Not to mention that elections have been suspended in Ukraine for quite some time, and a lot of Ukrainians dislike Zelensky. "

"Russia invaded after pro Russian referendums .."

Elections? In time of War?

Pro Russian referendums?

Blimey.

So where is your evidence of Ukrainians disliking Zelensky?

You sound rather... familiar? ????

Hey OC, I'm not sure why they're not getting the reality of the whole. DI is a confusing mess policitally speaking.
"The only journey is the one within."
Hey, we are not Russians, we have no clue what's going on in that country right now.

So expect the unexpected when a country is ruled by an ex? continuing? KGB (look it up and be shocked) narcissist (sound familiar?), psychopathic murderer of opponents to his power (look up murder of Navalny) and you will only be scratching the surface.

Don't be fooled again (from every time the U.S. has intervened). It's embarassing at this point.
"The only journey is the one within."
(02-18-2025, 05:29 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Hey, we are not Russians, we have no clue what's going on in that country right now.

So expect the unexpected when a country is ruled by an ex? continuing? KGB (look it up and be shocked) narcissist (sound familiar?), psychopathic murderer of opponents to his power (look up murder of Navalny) and you will only be scratching the surface.

Don't be fooled again (from every time the U.S. has intervened). It's embarassing at this point.

This is a fun one the algorithm recommended me today about Azov and tools I mean people that Zelensky gave Ukrainian citizenship to after they fled Russia for murdering:

Putin will never be able to keep the Ukrainian people down.

It's been tried before and they failed.

Are we in another Biblical never ending war?

You can't keep a good fighting people down. Look at Gaza, Muslims.

Anyway, our leaders have no clue what to do.
"The only journey is the one within."
(02-18-2025, 05:29 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Hey, we are not Russians, we have no clue what's going on in that country right now.

So expect the unexpected when a country is ruled by an ex? continuing? KGB (look it up and be shocked) narcissist (sound familiar?), psychopathic murderer of opponents to his power (look up murder of Navalny) and you will only be scratching the surface.

Don't be fooled again (from every time the U.S. has intervened). It's embarassing at this point.

Not only you have no clue, if someone hints on it, you call it russian propaganda. How do we supposed to deal with this difficult case?
You promote your ideas of justice on the expense of others. And this makes YOU a sociopath..and you project a lot as any sociopath would do. Sorry if you have signed up with military to serve in Ukraine already.

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(02-18-2025, 04:34 PM)sahgwa Wrote: 2023 is the most recent I could find in searching for his approval rating.

How is his TRUST being at 62%, not roughly equal to 4 people NOT TRUSTING him? surely that math is good enough for you? 

You are extremely irritating. 
And it's spelt disingenuous. 

'Ukrainians' trust in Zelensky declines to 62%'

It doesn't matter how many Ukrainians trust Zelensky. I wrote it a hundred times already on ATS. I will write it one more time, maybe I will get through... to the wall.

According to the Ukrainian constitution (and it's like this in many other European countries) if the country is invaded, the martial law is declared. The martial law automatically postpones the elections. Any elections. You cannot organize elections during the martial law. It's not up to a debate. It's unconstitutional. It's illegal. Any elections organized during the martial law are not legally binding.

Since you're obviously biased regarding Ukraine, I will explain it further using the example of my country. We have a similar constitution. It forbids organizing the elections during the martial law. The presidential elections are planned in May. If (God forbid but I'm talking theoretically only) Russia attacked Poland let's say in March or April, the martial law would be declared and the elections planned for May would be postponed until 90 days after lifting the martial law. The current president would stay in office till that time, the same goes for the parliament and the local authorities.

And it wouldn't matter how many Poles, if any, would support the current president or parliament. It's irrelevant. The president's personal whims would be irrelevant too. The martial law means no elections here. Point. There remains nothing to discuss here. This is why Ukraine needs at least a ceasefire to organize elections.
(02-18-2025, 07:59 PM)Darkorange Wrote: Not only you have no clue, if someone hints on it, you call it russian propaganda. 

And here's the pot calling the kettle black. Nope sir, it's YOU having no clue. You have no idea about the Eastern European politics. The Russian Federation has always used the Russian minorities inhabiting the former USSR republics to stir up s**t. They were doing it in Ukraine but earlier they were doing the same in Georgia, to a lesser extent in the Baltic countries and they are still doing it in the Transnistria (Moldova). It's the old Soviet method of subversion in order to gain control by sowing discord. This is how Russia wages and has always waged hybrid wars.

You can pontificate all you want to the contrary but it's as detached from the reality as the pontifications of creationists and flat-earthers. It's your imagination vs the facts. The Russia you're imagining vs the real Russia.



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